1841/51/61 Census lookup

[EddieW]

Can anyone help please.

john Morris born 1793 Ganarew,  Carpenter,Wheelwright and Parish Clerk.
Wife Sarah

Children possibly with him Anne 1816, Bengamin 1818, Elias1820 all born in Llangarron are all i have but there could be more as Sarah would only have been about 27 in 1820.

Joseph born 1815 was not with them in 1841 (have him in the 1841 census).

Regards
EddieW

[heywood]

There's this strong possibility

1851  HO107; Piece: 2444; Folio: 543; Page: 3

Yew Tree Cottage Llangattock Vibon Avel, Monmouthshre

Benjamin Morris head unmarried 32 yrs  garden labourer b Herefordshire  Langassen
Sarah Morris mother widow 64 yrs b Herefordshire Hentchurch

best wishes
heywood

[heywood]

1851 HO107; Piece: 2444; Folio: 447; Page: 6

Tellers Brooke Whitchurch
Elias Morris 29 yrs unmarried footman b Herefrod Llangarron

in the employ of Catherine Marriot

[EddieW]

Thanks heywood thats great
That almost certainly must be the boys and mother Sarah,

BUT big fopar with the father. His name was John and his son was Joseph the 1815 birth. Sorry about that .

If that is them then that only leaves the 1841 for john.

Cheers
Eddie

[heywood]

So this is the one you have:

HO107; Piece 431; Book: 9;  Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 3; Page: 1
Joseph Morris 25 yrs tailor

then there is Elias
HO107; Piece 431; Book: 15;  Folio: 17; Page: 4
Caerwendy St Weonards Herefordshire
Elies Morris 20 yrs male servant

[EddieW]

That's Joseph and i have him in the census up to 1881, he is my 2 gr grandfather.

Have just recently learned that his father is john, so was hoping John had survived through a couple of the census but at the moment it seems like we only have a chance in 1841 with Sarah being a widow in 1851.

The 20yr old Elies may be family as John and Sarah were married in 1812 but will look for some more on him to make sure.

Have modified the first post to John.

[heywood]

You mentioned Elias in your first post- I am fairly sure that will be him - born 1820 and 20 in 1841 census - just mispelt.
So you have him in 1841 and 1851 now.

Couldn't find Sarah nor John yet but will have another search.

[heywood]

Hi again Eddie,
there isone here who looks a possibility for you:

Family Search has a John Morris baptised Dece 1813 Ganarew - parents John and Sarah.

1841 HO107; Piece 431; Book: 8;   Folio: 8; Page: 29
Stonehouse Llangarren
John Morris 30 yrs carpenter
Susan 25 yrs (not born in county)
Joseph  2 yrs
Henry Jones 4 yrs (not born in county)
James Morris 25 rys taylor (that's how its spelt)

there is also a Thomas Morris 30 yrs a carpenter in Llangarren who could be I suppose.

[EddieW]

Hi
You're right about Elias, must have been a miscalculation on my part.

I have John 1813 penciled in at the moment as i have John Snr born Ganarew 1793 and married 1812 to Sarah Jones. 

Jones could be Susan's maiden name or Henry Jones could be a grandson of John and Sarah. No relationships given in 1841.

Ages were rounded ? up or down to the nearest five in 1841 so John 30, James 25 and Thomas 30 may fit.

We know Sarah was still alive in1851 so she has to be around in 1841 and so must Benjamin but where.

A couple of town names must be mispelt in the 1851 census, Langassen must be Langarron and Hentchurch i can't find must be Whitchurch.

Eddie