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Offline kaz

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Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« on: Sunday 17 February 08 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

I wonder if there is sks with some time on their hands who could do a look up in Toronto city directories for a particular family please ...

I know that i can find some info online but unfortunately i have dial-up  and my computer tends to freeze on me before i manage to actually search for a name :(

.... Anyway, I am looking for info On my Aspinall family.

Robert Aspinall born in England 1874 came to Canada before WW1 (I have his attestation records) and following WW1 his wife Hannah and sons Harold, Willie(William) and daughter Sarah Jane came over too.
I have Sarah J's marriage cert, know Harold married my g.grandmother though am not sure if that was in Canada or U.S.A and know William married as well. However, I would love to find out more about where the family lived and if poss. what occupation Robert had when in Canada.

From various records i have found these addresses:
3 Geneva Avenue, Toronto c1916
9 Grant Place, Toronto c1919
 Dovercourt Road c1930

Thanks for reading this - and hopefully it made some sense!

Kaz
Aspinall-Lancashire and Canada,
Dickinson-Lancashire and Canada,
Noon-Warwickshire,
Parr-Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire
Reeves-Staffs and Warwickshire,
Viggers-Oxfordshire and Warwickshire,


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Re: Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Hello Kaz

There is a piece in the Globe & Mail titled Toronto - the City of Fine Homes, Moore Park, North Toronto dated July 23, 1926, page 5. One home included is of the owner & builder Robert Aspinall address 77 Golfdale Road. Includes a picture and description of the home.

If you would like more details, send me a pm.

Update: Address above is probably for this Robert. Robert (parents Lawrence Aspinall and Mary Tinsbury Farringham?) born Burscaugh Bridge, England, age 37, widower married Bertha May Horne August 14, 1918 and his occupation is builder. Residence 41 Ashburnham. This Robert also had a daughter Etta Daireen/Dorreen died May 13, 1916 at same address as above. Mother given as Etta Fell. Etta was from Oro, Ontario and died Dec 18, 1917 same address, parents James Fell & Agnes Horne.

If it isn't a relative of yours, it will at least allow you to eliminate Robert Aspinall builder, if more than one listed in directories.

Linda
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Re: Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Kaz,

I had a look at the Toronto city directories but took a break at 1965.  Here's what I found:

1914 - Robert is an employee of Turnbull Elevator Mfg Co and his residence is given as 1 12 1/2 Teraulay.
1915 - Robert is a labourer living at 3 Geneva Avenue.
1916-20 - Robert is not listed but there's a Mrs Ellen Aspinall at 3 Geneva.
1921 - The residents of 3 Geneva are given as Mrs Ellen Woodfine and W. R. Woodfine, an employee of Sheet Metal Products.

In 1922-26, Robert appears as a resident of 16 Brant (not Grant) Place. His occupation is given as labourer with the City in 1923 and just labourer in 1925.  Other residents of 16 Brant are Harold (labourer at "Tor Carpet") in 1924 and William (labourer at Can Pack Co in 1925 and steamfitter at SMP in 1926).

In 1927-30, Robert lives at 77 Shaw. William the steamfitter (with SMP then General Steel Wares) lives at the same address.

Robert lives at 201 Dovercourt from 1931 to 1955. He works for the City Parks Department 1934-48 with the exception of 1943-44 when he's an employee of Massey Harris. In 1956, he's at 21 Trowell Avenue which was the residence of William D Aspinall in 1951. He's missing from the 1957-59 directories but a Robert shows up at 45 Afton Avenue in 1960-61.

William works as a steamfitter and foreman at General Steel Wares right up to 1965 where I broke off.  His residences were:
  • 201 Dovercourt - 1931-33, 1937-38, 1949-55
  • 830 Bloor West - 1935
  • 15 Delaware Ave - 1936
  • 91 Essex - 1939-40
  • 176 Chambers Ave - 1941-42
  • 64 Belvidere Ave - 1944-47
  • 3 Springdale Blvd - 1956
  • 225 Oak Park Ave - 1957-61
  • 42 Enderby Road - 1962-65

William of General Steel Wares and William D share the same 225 Oak Park address in 1957-61. Prior to that, I noted William D at the aforementioned 21 Trowell in 1951.  At that time, he was a "hlpr" at General Steel Wares. During 1957-65, he's generally a "stn opr" with Metro Toronto. In 1961, he has two entries: "h 225 Oak Park ave" and "stn opr Metro Tor r 2168 Gerrard e".  After that his address changes annually:
  • 65 Robbins Ave - 1962
  • 168 Lee Ave - 1963
  • 1161 O'Connor Dr - 1964
  • 2451 Queen East - 1965

The two Williams were not the only Aspinalls at 225 Oak Park:
1964
   Donald h 225 Oak Park av
   Linda sec Birks, Langdon, McComisky & MacLatchy r 225 Oak Park av
1965
   Linda sec Birks, Langdon, McComisky & MacLatchy r 225 Oak Park av
   Mary Mrs sec bkpr Louis Mostyn h 225 Oak Park av

After 1924, I found these entries for Harold:
1927
   Harold emp Dickinson Dye Wks res Swansea
   Caroline Mrs weaver Barrymore Cloth Co res Swansea
1928
   Harry hlpr Summit Dyeing lvs 1391 Dundas west
In 1937, there are three Aspinalls living at 26 Maher Ave: Harold, May W, and Thomas. Apart from a spell of "act ser" during the war, Harold S works a number of positions with Packard Motors up to his last appearance in 1952. May works as a telephone operator at Eaton's department store in 1938-41 and as a clerk at Purity Bread in 1945. Thomas works with what appears to be the post office in 1937-41 and as a "tool crib attdt Can Illinois Tools" in 1942.  After that, no occupation is shown for him.  He lives at 26 Maher up to 1955.  He lives at 70 Clovelly Ave during 1956-61. "Emily (wid Thos)" appears at Clovelly after that.

The 26 Maher address also has a Beatrice C Aspinall in 1941-43.  She works as "stenog Rogers-Majestic" in 1941 and "stenog Purity Bread" in 1942-43.

Olive Aspinall resides at 201 Dovercourt in 1933 and works as "marker West End Laundry". Olive appears again in 1948-49, living at 38 Fernbank Ave.
 
There were two Robert Aspinalls in the Toronto area.  The one referred to in the Globe & Mail article was a bricklayer and builder who was in Toronto before your Robert arrived.

I'll try and get to the post-1965 directories this week.

mat

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Re: Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Linda,

Thanks ever so much for the information.

 Unfortunately my Robert was the son of William Aspinall and Mary Jane Dawbekin - there may well be a connection somewhere with the Robert you found...i just don't know where :D

Thanks,

Kaz

Aspinall-Lancashire and Canada,
Dickinson-Lancashire and Canada,
Noon-Warwickshire,
Parr-Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire
Reeves-Staffs and Warwickshire,
Viggers-Oxfordshire and Warwickshire,


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Re: Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Oh my Goodness Mat.....You're making my head spin :o
Aspinall-Lancashire and Canada,
Dickinson-Lancashire and Canada,
Noon-Warwickshire,
Parr-Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire
Reeves-Staffs and Warwickshire,
Viggers-Oxfordshire and Warwickshire,


Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 19 February 08 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Just reading it quickly and trying to figure out who is who.


Not a clue who the Ellen is of 1916+. I know Robert had a sister Elizabeth Ellen but have no idea if she came to Canada or not...
I wonder if that is the same Ellen of 1921 at the same address?

 I do know that the Harold mentioned was my g.grandfather -his wife was Caroline. Apparently they lost everything in a fire c1925 so at least i know the address of that place now.

There are certainly other names i have heard of - Olive and Linda for example - but there are also other names that i have never come across and will have to try and track down who they are (thats always fun!)

I had no idea that anyone would be able to find out so much info..and now i have it its making my brain grind to a halt!!I really need to print this off and go through it slowly....really, really slowly!


Thanks so much Mat - you're a star,

Kaz
Aspinall-Lancashire and Canada,
Dickinson-Lancashire and Canada,
Noon-Warwickshire,
Parr-Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire
Reeves-Staffs and Warwickshire,
Viggers-Oxfordshire and Warwickshire,


Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

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Re: Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Kaz,

I found a couple of obits in the Toronto Star:

December 19, 1960
  ASPINALL, Hannah -- On Sat., Dec.
17, 1960, at Newmarket, Ont.  Hannah
Staton, beloved wife of Robert Aspi-
nall, dear mother of William, Toronto;
Harold, England; and late Mrs. Sarah
Billows.  Resting at chapel of Bates
and Dodds, Queen St. W., at Strachan
Ave., until 1 p.m. Wednesday. Service
at St. John's Garrison church (Port-
land and Stewart), Wed., 1:30 p.m.
to Prospect cemetery.

February 13, 1961
  ASPINALL, Robert -- At the Toronto
Western hospital on Sat. Feb. 11[?],
1961. Robert Aspinall of 45 Afton
Ave., Toronto, beloved husband of the
late Hannah Staton, dear father of
William, Toronto; Harold, England;
and the late Mrs. Sarah Billows, To-
ronto. Resting at the Giffen-Mack
chapel, 2570 Danforth Ave. at Main
St.  Service Wednesday 5[?]p.m. In-
terment Prospect cemetery.

Robert's obit was hard to read, hence the question marks. Once the snow's gone, I'll amble up to Prospect Cemetery and get a photo of the headstone for you.

I looked for Billows in a sampling of city directories and found the following:

1940
Billows Danl carder York Knitting Mills h 8-9 806 Bathurst
Billows Sarah Mrs winder York Knitting Mills r 201 Dovercourt rd

1945
Billows Danl comber York Knitting Mills h 92 Powers
Billows Sarah J cotton opr York Knitting Mills r 201 Dovercourt rd

1950
Billows Daniel combers York Knitting Mills h 92 Powers
Billows Sarah opr York Knitting Mills r 201 Dovercourt rd

1952-3
Billows Danl cotton comber York Knitting Mills h 40 Russett av
Billows Sarah r 201 Dovercourt rd

1954
Billows Danl comber York Knitting Mills h 40 Russett avenue

1955
Billows Daniel comber York Knitting Mills

1956
Billows Danl comber York Knitting Mills h 16 Armstrong av

1958
Billows Danl mach opr York Knitting Mills h 16 Armstrong av

1960
Billows Danl h 93 Bastedo av

The Aspinalls that I was tracking peter out after 1965:

The Williams
- 1966: just "Wm D", at Apt #101, 165 Erskine Ave
- 1967-72: one William resides at 683 Pharmacy Avenue and the other is the householder of 683 Pharmacy and works at various positions with the Toronto Transit Commission
- 1973: the TTC William no longer has his occupation listed
- 1974-82: only the William who is householder of 683 Pharmacy is listed

Emily
- "Emily (wid Thos)" is at Clovelly up to 1969. 
- An Emily appears at 205 Cummer Avenue in 1976-7 but there's no evidence that she's the same one.

Mary
- 1966: "Mary Mrs sec bkpr Louis Mostyn h 225 Oak Park av"
- 1967: "Mary sec J Richd Shiff h 225 Oak Park av"
- 1969: "Mary h 225 Oak Park av"
- 1975: "Mary sec Simpsons Sears h 8 Park Vista"
- 1976-79: "Mary ofc sec Sears h 8 Park Vista"

Linda
- 1966: "Linda L sec Dean S Dignan r 225 Oak Park av"
- 1967: "Linda sec Day Wilson Campbell & Martin r 85 Rosevear av"
- 1968: "Linda L sec Crown Trust r 225 Oak Park av"

You'll probably have to identify children through obituaries in order to go further. 

mat

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Re: Toronto Directories Lookup...please
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Mat,

Again , many thanks :).

 Looks like i'll be busy trying to put all this into my family tree ....

Kaz
Aspinall-Lancashire and Canada,
Dickinson-Lancashire and Canada,
Noon-Warwickshire,
Parr-Nottinghamshire and Warwickshire
Reeves-Staffs and Warwickshire,
Viggers-Oxfordshire and Warwickshire,


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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 February 08 05:41 GMT (UK) »
Here is the house he lived in at 201 Dovercourt Road. (He would probably be shocked at the price.  :o )

http://www.carollome.com/Properties.php/Details/45

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