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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 23 February 08 11:43 GMT (UK) »
on  the 1903 and 1909 Electoral Roll
Selina Earl Home Duties is living at the same address in Maryborough  Alma Street
as Maud Earl Sales woman

Jenn


On the  1903 electoral roll it looks like Edward? Earl  Grocer? is living in Alma Street too
 (:o Very hard to read )
Possibly Selinas son?

Can any other eyes see this any clearer?

Also 1903 electoral roll
Percy Fairbank - painter     living with his brother
Charles Edward Fairbank - baker
High Street,Maryborough

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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 23 February 08 21:52 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Guys for that overwhelming amount of imformation. My father is coming to visit next weekend, so I will try and sort out all this and present him with some interesting facts. Hopefully together we will work it out.

Will let everyone know what the outcome is.

Clair
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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 24 February 08 04:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Hope I am not wearing out my help here, but I have digested the info, and have a couple of questions.

(1) Mary Anne Fairbank (Thomasine Earl's daughter) didn't get married until 1905, is she listed on the 1903 electrol role - she would have been 19?

(2) Still not sure who the 3 youngest lived with. Although Seline Earl lived till 1927, her husband, William Henry Earl died in 1885. That would have been before Thomasine had died (1888) and left the kids.

If Richard Earl raised them, then I have some inconsistencies with his wife. I have some pictures of their graves and it states his wife as Gerturde Elizabeth.
See attachments

(3) From the 1903 Electrol role a Edward Earl was  a grocer. Can anyone with BDM access confirm that this person could have been Selina's son?

Thanks so much

Clair
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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 24 February 08 05:04 GMT (UK) »

If Richard Earl raised them, then I have some inconsistencies with his wife. I have some pictures of their graves and it states his wife as Gerturde Elizabeth.


Hi Clair

This Richard is William & Selina's son.

Ok, went to the SLV.  Information as follows:-

"Omega" sailed from Plymouth 30th October 1853 arrived at Melbourne 17th January 1854
The Earl family excluding William & John Came on their own account to Melbourne 26th Jan - Day work was written in as well.
William & John were contracted by Mr Pearce of collingwood on the 20th Jan for 1mth wage 30 with rations
Their occupations were classed as Labourers
Family were CofE  Henry(ag Lab), Mary, John & William could read & write.  Georgina & Margaret could only read, the younger ones could do neither.  Native place: Cornwall.

Selina Roberts sailed on the 'Clara' from liverpool on 1st Feb 1863 and arrived in Melbourne on 28th April 1863.
She was from Cornwall aged 19, could Read & write, Religion: CofE, occupation: General Servant.  She was contracted by Mrs Leonard, 61 Spencer St for 20p Term 1 (don't know if this is year or mth, but probably mth, seeing she married William in 1863)

Thomasina Earl along with the Bennett family left Liverpool on "Western Ocean" 6th December 1865 Arrived in Melbourne 28th March 1866.  Edward & Richard's occupations are given as Labourer.  Mary A jnr & Thomasina are spinsters, Mary A snr is classed Wife.
Master: Owen Griffiths There were 5 cabin passengers & 230 1/2 steerage.  Unfortunatley there isn't much detail as they came steerage and paid their own way.

Probate Indexes (The wills are accessible online through the PROV):-
Henry EARL died 9/9/ 1877 (Ref: 16/630) Storekeeper Maryborough Probate granted to Mary EARL 18/10/77
Mary EARL died 9/11/1882 (Ref: 24/732) Widow Maryborough Probate granted to Richard EARL
William Henry EARL died 25/2/1885 (Ref: 29/293) Grocer Maryborough Probate granted to Selina EARL (reserving leave)
Edward EARL died 16/5/09 (Ref: 111/628) Fancy goods dealer maryborough
Richard H EARL died 29/4/1916 (Ref:144/530) Gent Maryborough

Cemetery Records
John E FAIRBANK  11/7/1900 buried Eddington (this township is about 13km out of Dunolly, on the way to Maldon)
Edward FAIRBANK 19/3/1878 8wks Ref: W5 Timor

1875 Bailliere's Victorian Directory
Earl Richard Grocer Maryborough
Earl Henry snr Grocer Maryborough
Earl John Fruiterer & greengrocer Melbourne
Earl William Henry Grocer Maryborough

1880/1881 Bailliere's Victorian Directory
Earl Wm Hy Grocer High St, Maryborough
Earl Mary Draper High St, Maryborough

Cheers


Genni




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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 24 February 08 05:16 GMT (UK) »
hello  there

a.  she would not be  on  the electoral roll  one had to be 21 years old

c.   William Henry EARL  and Selina ROBERTS  had the following children all born Maryborough

Richard Henry born 1864 reg no 9766

Albert William Roberts  born 1870 reg no 9772

Edward born 1874 reg no 17051

Pauline Maude born 1877 reg no 16963 died 1878 reg no 5861

Elizabeth Maude Duncan born 1880 reg no 17142


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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 24 February 08 05:35 GMT (UK) »
Genni - what can I say.

Thankyou SO MUCH for going to so much trouble to get me some very vital information. You have filled in so many gaps. I can not thank you enough, and I can not wait until Dad get all this information. He will be thrilled.

Clair
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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 24 February 08 06:20 GMT (UK) »
Clair


Did a little more checking, I hope this isn't going to get to confusing.

If anyone looked after the Fairbank children, I'd say it would be Selina Earl EARL nee ROBERTS.  She didn't die until 1927 in East Malvern Reg: 2205 Parents: William ROBERTS and Mary Ann EARL.

Mary Ann EARL married William ROBERTS Sept QTr 1837 Liskeard (William died somewhere between 1851 & 1858)
Mary Ann ROBERTS married Edward BENNETT June Qtr 1858 (Ref: 5a Page 589)


I think in the light of overwhelming evidence I agree. So I am surmising that Selina's mother, Mary Ann Earl, was probably Thomasine's aunt (sister to Edward Earl). SO Selina and Thomasine were cousins. Must have been close for her to look after the children.

Can anyone look up the 1841 census for Callington, Cornwall to find out if MAry Ann Earl was

Found the following death entry:-
Mary Ann BENNETT died Maryborough aged 71 1891 Reg: 6954 Parents: Richard EARL & Mary GIDDIE
Checking the "Western Ocean" passenger list, entry on same page as Thomasina.
Edward BENNETT 31
Mary  A BENNETT 38
Richard E BENNETT 16
Mary A BENNETT 13

I think this confirms that Mary Ann was Edward Earl's sister

Wow I think I am getting somewhere.
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Re: Vic Death Lookups - Earl
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 24 February 08 06:57 GMT (UK) »

If Richard Earl raised them, then I have some inconsistencies with his wife. I have some pictures of their graves and it states his wife as Gerturde Elizabeth.
Clair

Don't know if this has been mentioned before  (sorry if it has  ???)

Richd Hy Earl (born Maryborough) married Gertrude Elizth Hammerton (born Geelong)
1889  Reg no 7366

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Vic Death Lookups - Earl (& Fairbank link)
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 04 April 15 07:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Clair

We are obviously cousins via the Fairbank link.  It would be interesting to have a chat.

Doug (Melbourne)