Cavan Ireland

[Aileen18]

Pratts of Cavan Ireland
In the book to South Australia's Shores they Came it states that "1857 in County Ireland a group of youths gathered together and decided to emigrate. Amongst them was Thomas Pratt, coming out on the ship "Frenchman" which arrived in Australia in 1858. The most cherished possessions of the youth Thomas was his Gaelic Bible and a large silk flag carried by his grandfather, a bearer in the civil war between James the 2nd and William of Orange at the Battle of the Boyne in Ireland."
In my family tree I have sisters Ann Verner b abt 1834 and Sarah Verner b abt 1842 in Tyrone Ireland.  Ann Verner married James Pratt b 1830 Ireland and Sarah married Thomas Pratt b 1841 Cavan Ireland. 
I am trying to establish if the James and Thomas are brothers and any information about their ancestors which would confirm the information in the book.
 

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Aileen

I assume that you are aware of the post on tis family on the IGI


http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

both Ann and Sarah Verner are lsited as married to the Pratts you mention.

It seems that they may have all died in South Australia which is unfortunatyely not online. SKS may be able to look up the death sof all four for you.

there is a cemetery listing for
Thoimas Pratt 1887
James Prat  1891
Sarah Pratt 1891 and 1926 the latter matches the info on the IGI
the only Ann was 1917 for Ann Elizabeth

http://www.saghs.org.au/graves.htm

they also offer a research service,

PRATT, ANN
Willaston Cemetery
Plot/Grave/Niche    40 O 1
lived at    REEVES PLAINS
71 yrs
Date of Burial    23/05/1905
Minister Officiating    REV T G WHITE
Burial/Order Number    2140

 and in the same grave:
PRATT, JAMES
Willaston Cemetery
Plot/Grave/Niche    41 O 1
lived   REEVES PLAINS
Age    79 yrs
Date of Burial    29/03/1909
Minister Officiating    REV W REED

again same grave so a son???
PRATT, JOHN JAMES
Cemetery    Willaston
Plot/Grave/Niche    40 O 1
lived   GAWLER
Age    70 yrs
Date of Burial    23/03/1945 0:00
Minister Officiating    REV. TREGILGAS
Grave Depth    REOPEN
Funeral Director    TAYLOR & FORGIE
Burial/Order Number    4344
Burial/Order Number    2343

appears to be several Pratts in Willaston
http://www.familyhistorysa.info/births-marriages-deaths/cemeteries/#CC

and another site:
http://www.centennialpark.org/ has a verner Pratt in its listing.

with dates etc you may be able to look at deaath registrations more easily

Robyn in Wodonga

[Aileen18]

Hi Robyn
Thanks for the reply. Since posting the request I have established that James & Thomas (brothers) married sisters (Ann & Sarah).  I had found their death dates, etc but did not know that they were buried in Willaston so have added that to the family tree.  James & Thomas's father & mother were buried in the Two Wells cemetery. 
Unfortunately I cannot seem to trace any further back than John Verner & Jane Verner (nee Scott) - they arrived in Port Adelaide on the 17 Mar 1857 on board the Monsoon.
Thanks for the information.
Aileen

[Verner]

Hi Aileen,  I see yo are doing research on the Verner's (Churchill?).  I too am doing research on the Verner's and I am blocked - do you have any info on a James Verner 1806 m. Martha McGill - who was his father and where did he live  Emigrated to Glasgow, Scotland about 1845??  He was my gr.gr.gr.grandfather.
Thanks, Lynda

[davidconway]

Lynda,re James Verner and Martha McGill,his parents were John Verner and Mary Galbraith.They can be found in 1851 Scotland census,living in Glasgow.He remarried Esther Fleming 11/10/1853 and died 1872.Do you have more information?