Help Birth look up please

[alison1970]

Hi please caould you help me look up this Birth. john fenn born coggershell essex 1822, I am hoping it will give me an insight into his parents, but have been unable to find a record of his birth anywhere. 

So far this is the cenus info i am working on:
1881 cenus

       Birth Year   <1822>
       Birthplace   Coggeshall, Essex, England
       Age   59
       Occupation   Stud Groom (Dom Servt)
       Marital Status   M <Married>
       Head of Household   John FENN
       Relation   Head
       Disability   


more full cenus: 1. Name John FENN Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 59 Occupation Stud Groom (Dom Servt) Birthplace Coggeshall, Essex, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
2. Name Jane FENN Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 54 Occupation – Birthplace Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
3. Name Elizabeth FENN Relationship Daur Condition U Gender F Age 20 Occupation – Birthplace Stratfield Saye, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
4. Name Thomas BOSIER Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 21 Occupation Helper (Dom Servt) Birthplace Stratfield Saye, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
5. Name George DORE Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 22 Occupation Helper (Dom Servt) Birthplace Mortimer, Berkshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
6. Name William SEARLE Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 19 Occupation Helper (Dom Servt) Birthplace Yately, Hampshire, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307
Amount paid £0.00
7. Name Alfred WADE Relationship Servant Condition U Gender M Age 27 Occupation Helper Domestic Servant (Groom) Birthplace Frostendem, Suffolk, England Address Duke Wellingtons Premises, Stratfieldsaye, Hampshire, England PRO ref RG11/1256 Folio 59 Page 8 FHL film no. 1341307

Also know he married again in 1908 to a Sarah gosletine. this marriage was in Tendring essex.


Thank you
kind regards

Alison

[rosie99]

Hi Alison

Do you have his fathers name from his marriage certificate?

Rosie

[amanda t]

Hi Alison

I don't know whether you have looked him up in other census, I have had a quick glance. In 1851 he is living with his wife Jane in St George Hanover Square and in 1841 as a lodger. So unfortunately, the early census don't offer any indication as to his parents' names etc.

Amanda

[alison1970]

ok thanks for that, could you tell me which site you found that census on. I have been using free bmd, Ancestry co.uk and family history on line.
Thank you.

[amanda t]

Hi Alison,
I am using Ancestry.

In 1851: I have him living at 32 Eccleston Mews, Westminster.

John Fenn Head marr 29 groom Coggeshill Essex
Jane Fenn Wife marr 24 Gossport Hampshire
George Fenn son unm 1 St Geo Hann Sq Middlesex

HO107 1478 159 36

Is this your guy?

Amanda

[amanda t]

In 1841 I have him living at Great Ilford, Barking Essex, 20 as an ostler ( a stableman) with the family of John & Jane Wiltshire (also ostlers). Born in county.

HO 107 323 5 7 36 5


Hope this helps.
Amanda

[alison1970]

thanks your a star. for some reason couldn't find it.

[dawlc]

Hi Alison

As you know he was born in Coggeshall in Essex in 1822 the easiest way to try and find his parents would be to look at the baptismal records for the parish church in Coggeshall.  By 1822 (from my experience) most baptismal records are fairly legible.  At this time a baptismal record would record; date of baptism, name of infant, parents names (i.e. John & Mary Smith), where they lived (in this case it would just record Coggeshall) and father's occupation.

Also if you are lucky enough to find the baptism you can then usually follow the parents through the years and find any further children they had.  In 1822 most people never moved far from their village so it maybe possible to find John Fenn's parents' marriage which gives you his mother's maiden name.

Are you able to easily visit the Essex Records Office?  If not (I live in Chelmsford) I often visit to fascilitate my own research, so I could look at Coggeshall's for you.

Regards
Deborah

[alison1970]

Hi Deborah
That would be brilliant if you could look it up for me please, as i am in Devon it would unfortunately be to far for me to travel.
I am so glad i have found this site, people who use it are so lovely and helpful.

Thank you
Kind regards
Alison