Medal Cards and the Ancestry Site

[Gatacre]

Ken

That's great.  It is my Walter  b Miles Platting but until recentley I thought it was just Newton.  I will look up all the things and copy

Walter's mother was Ann Paul and I did find them in the 1891 census but not the 1900.  He was a cousin of my mother but left the army when he was going to Ireland because of the troubles after WW1 and thought he would be fighting against some of his own families.

Thank YOU

Norah

[Gatacre]

 By chance his papers are on Ancestry, and his mother’s name was Ann, and he was born about 1897. If you have Ancestry they have him with service number 269562. He was previously 8282 in the 2nd/7th Liverpool Regiment.


I have been looking for this info but cannot see where it is.  I have paid a sub to Ancestry.  I need a manual!!

Norah

PS When will I get to the standard of being a fount of information??

[km1971]

I may have to delay until I get home tonight, but one thing I remember is that he is sent to Ireland after WW1.

LG entry - http://www.londongazette.co.uk/ViewPDF.aspx?pdf=30540&geotype=London&gpn=2413&type=ArchivedSupplementPage&all=&exact=w. allen&atleast=&similar=

The location in brackets after the name is the the place of birth taken from the enlistment/attestment papers

ken

[km1971]

To get MIC - http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=1262

and enter 2695762 269562 in the Regimental number box

To get his service record search for him in Ancestry. Go to the British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920. Search for him with birth date of 1897 – you have to re-enter his name for some reason. He is one of two. Ancestry says there are only four images, there are actually 14. A few are duplicates but they go from page numbers 52657 to 52670.


Ken

[Gatacre]

Thank you , Ken.  I did follow what you did and tried not to use your info  and managed to get the sites but, of course, I could not  have done it without you giving me what you found.

  Now I have learned a lot and looked at Ancestry.co.uk for what is on Ancestry in the British Isles.  I had not done this before because I have been searching in the US with a cousin for early forebears.

Now. all thanks to you, I can use the LG site better, too.

Norah

[Gatacre]

I may have to delay until I get home tonight, but one thing I remember is that he is sent to Ireland after WW1.


I missed the above.  Perhaps it is on service papers I did not find?

Norah

[forester]

Hello Norah,

A couple of tips for searching for MICs on the National Archives site.

Less information is better: if you have just a service number, it is often good enough.

If you get an overwhelming number of hits, just add one more piece of known information at a time, such as surname or regiment

Christian names can be any variation of full name and initials and not always in the order you think if you're relying on family hearsay.

The NA search engine will only search it's own way. This is particularly important when you put the regiment into the equation.
For example, RAMC will get you a zero count, you have to enter Royal Army Medical Corps.

The same rules pretty much apply when searching  the main catalogue as well.

As for the London Gazette: I still really struggle. It has rules all of it's own that are beyond mankind. 

I hope that helps,

Phil

[km1971]

Hi Norah

I am a bit confused. Out of LG entry, MIC on Ancestry and Service Papers on Ancestry, which have you NOT found?

Ken

[Gatacre]

Ken.
The paper I have not found is the one which states that Walter Allen's mother is called Ann  and that he was in Ireland.

I understand all the other things which you have told me, now, and that is a tremendous step forward.

I am rather confused at to which are the digitized papers which started to be released in 2007 where one is able to find out what I thought would be the more personal information other than what is contained on the recruitment paper and which I thought you may have found.

Many years ago before having a computer I knew a FH Society member who researched in Kew and she was able to find me the personal papers of forebears in the Napoleonic Wars. Those of the Hereford Militia and the 17th Foot Regiment in the Peninsula War.
Perhaps I thought that you had found a site  for WW1
which had more personal deatail.

Norah

I pay a sub to Ancestry  but I am not sure if we still have to go to the NA rchives or not.