WELCH Family - Pakefield

[jonhanham]

hello I'm very new to this site & have sent this message to others when may be I should have posted it this way.
My paternal grandfather, great grandfather & great grand mother both lived in Pakefield, Suffolk in Pakefield Street, Cot, the latter I assume stood for cottages. My great grand parents were born in 1840 & 1842 respectively. According to a member of my family now deceased, they were not married & as I’m researching my family tree I cannot be sure of my great grand mother’s maiden name.
My great grand father was a fisherman. Can any one help me please?

[suffolk*sue]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat.

Can you post what you do know and then we can take it from there.

[suffolk*sue]

Would this be the couple

Marriage


James Welsh
Harriet Moore

 1868 
Sep  qtr.
Mutford 
Volume: 4a 
Page: 1121

[jonhanham]

hello I'm very new to this site & have sent this message to others when may be I should have posted it this way.
My paternal grandfather, great grandfather & great grand mother both lived in Pakefield, Suffolk in Pakefield Street, Cot, the latter I assume stood for cottages. My great grand parents were born in 1840 & 1842 respectively. According to a member of my family now deceased, they were not married & as I’m researching my family tree I cannot be sure of my great grand mother’s maiden name.
My great grand father was a fisherman. Can any one help me please? uis name was james & hers was Harriet

[Rick]

Welcome johhanham!

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According to the 1881 census James and Harriet were living in:

Pakefield Street Cottage
Kirkley
Suffolk.

James is aged 40 and gives his birthplace as Carlton, Suffolk and his occupation as fisherman.
Harriet gives her age as 39 and her birthplace as Pakefield.

RG11/1901 Folio 101 Page 15

This is freely available online.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp

From this, I checked the 1851 Census and found the following for James.

1851 Census
HO107/1805 Folio 89 Page 3
Foresters
Carlton Colville
Suffolk

WELCH
John, Head, Married, 47, Agricultural Labourer, b Carlton Colville
Hannah, Wife, 49, b Carlton
George, Son, 11, Ag Lab, b Carlton Colville
James, Son, 9, b Carlton Colville
William, Son, 6, Scholar, b Carlton Colville


Rick

[Rick]

The marriage that Sue found would seem to fit well.  Marriage certificates can be ordered online and would give you father's names and occupations.  It would also give confirmation of the census information.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

This looks like John and Hannah on the 1841 Census.  The 41 does not give relationships within families, marital status or exact place of birth.  It only indicates whether or not someone was born in the census county.  Adult ages are often rounded down to nearest 5.

HO107/1029/7 - 13
Carlton Colville
Suffolk

(All born in County)

WELCH John, 35, Ag Lab
WELCH Hannah, 40
HORNING Sarah, 9
WELCH Hannah, 6
WELCH George, 2

I have checked the Suffolk Marriage Index but there is no marriage for the couple in Suffolk between 1813 and 1837.

Rick

[suffolk*sue]

You missed this one Rick. 

John Welch
Hannah Horning

26th August, 1834 = Carlton Colville

[suffolk*sue]

1851

MOORE
William - 32 - farm lab. - born Henstead
Mary - 31 - born Oulton
Elizabeth - 11
Harriett - 7
James - 6
Rachel - 3
Maria - 11 months

the rest born in Pakefield.


HO107; Piece: 1805; Folio: 106; Page: 7 = Pakefield

[jonhanham]

Thank you all for the information you have found. I've discovered data sources I did n't know existed