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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #207 on: Saturday 12 April 08 21:25 BST (UK) »


Just so you know ..... I'm still chasing the American contingent .........  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm so close ....... but not quite there yet !!  :) :)

Archivists are all excited and on the hunt now .... thats good ... I don't have to chase around so much .... but as soon as I know something ......................  :D :D :D
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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #208 on: Saturday 12 April 08 23:23 BST (UK) »
Hello  Annie,

Hurry up with George Baynes please  ;D

Did you catch this thread in passing?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,296821.0.html

Not the Crimea, but another Englishman that fought in the Civil War and a great picture on page 2.  :)

Phil  :)
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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #209 on: Sunday 13 April 08 04:49 BST (UK) »


Well Phil .... I can tell you for sure - he's not at Arlington !! .... they say he's not at the Soldiers Home cemetery either .... but I've asked for a second opinion on that .... I think he's more than likely there !!  ::) .... but I'm waiting to hear !!

I'm hurrying as much as I can - honest ! ........  ;D ;D

Yes I saw that post !! the photo was wonderful ...... I love those sort of things !!  :D

I need to get back on here again ... I've been "playing " too much !!

Annie  :)
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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #210 on: Monday 14 April 08 05:33 BST (UK) »



Private Daniel Haxhall 1536 b. 1834 Stowmarket .... son of John Haxhall Stowmarket Suffolk

Enlisted 1st June 1852 Ipswich ..... Killed October 25th 1854 Balaklava

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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #211 on: Monday 14 April 08 21:40 BST (UK) »
My local one Annie,

James Bagshaw, Private 1581, 4th Light Dragoons.

Enlisted at Brighton, 12th Jan 1854
Occupation: Labourer.

Fought in the Charge of the Light Brigade and was captured by the Russians.
Released 22nd Oct 1855.

His real name was James Backshall , baptised at St Peters, Ardingly, Sussex on 15th Nov 1835, the son of David and Amelia (nee Marchant).

At some point James returned to Ardingly and is buried in St Peters churchyard (Plot 130).

The inscription on his headstone reads:

                                                IN
                                              MEMORY OF
                                         JAMES BACKSHALL
                                    DIED 11th MARCH 1872
                                          AGED 37 YEARS

                                       In the midst of life
                                        We are in death



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Re: One for Liverpool Annie Part 2
« Reply #212 on: Monday 14 April 08 21:50 BST (UK) »


That's a lovely one Phil !! .... so meaningful when you can actually find details and be close !!

Thank you !  :)
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« Reply #213 on: Saturday 26 April 08 05:16 BST (UK) »


( I know we've had him before ... but I can't find him !!  ::) ::) )


James Ryan was born in Youghal County Cork he originally enlisted in the 3rd Light Dragoons on 8th April 1836 and transferred to the 17th Lancers on 1st July 1853. His membership of the Balaclava Commemoration Society would seem to confirm his having charged. He was entitled to three bars Balaklava, Inkermann, Sebastopol ...... He was invalided out of the service in 1857 and went to live in the village of Westleigh Devonshire - where he was known to be living in 1863. He was also entitled to the Sutlej medal with clasps for Moodkee, Ferozeshuhur and Sobraon. He was wounded in action at Ferozeshuhur on 21st December 1845. Furthermore he was entitled to the Punjab medal with clasps for Chilianwala and Goojerat.

He's in 1871 census as a Widower with 3 young children Military Pensioner  1881 census with new wife Jane but with only the son James Chelsea Pensioner but dead by 1891 census Jane widow and son James only

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« Reply #214 on: Saturday 26 April 08 21:45 BST (UK) »


Here's a group that were sold on the e word and some history - I wanted them but they got too rich for my blood !!  :D

British Crimean War medal group awarded to Corporal Charles Cousins 4th Light Dragoons Light Brigade, 18th Hussars, 5th Dragoon Guards. The group consists of -  British Crimea War Medal 1854-56, with four clasps, "Alma," “Balaklava,” “Inkermann,” “Sebastopol” (Silver, Queen Victoria, officially impressed: C. Cousins, 4th Lt.Dtagns.) Turkish Crimea War Medal 1855 (Silver, Sardinian reverse, impressed C. Cousins, 4th Light Dragoons). The awards came with official ribbon and were in Very Fine condition.
Corporal Cousins enlisted in the 4th Light Dragoons February 17 1851. The muster roll for the day of the CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRIGADE shows he was "UNDOUBTEDLY PRESENT." Cousins transferred to the 18th Hussars in 1858 and the 5th Dragoon Guards in 1860. He served until discharged as "Time expired" March 31 1863.
 
The British Crimea War Medal 1854-56 - was awarded to British and some French units which served in the Crimean War between March 28 1854, and March 30 1856. The Alma clasp was awarded to British units which took part in the Battle of Alma on September 20 1854. The Balaklava clasp was awarded to British units which took part in the Battle of Balaklava on October 25 1854. This is the battle where the Charge of the Light Brigade took place. For this battle also the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders received the Battle Honour Balaklava and were immortalized as the Thin Red Line. The Inkermann clasp was awarded to British units which took part in the Battle of Inkermann on November 5 1854. The Sebastopol clasp was awarded to British units which took part in the siege and capture of Sebastopol between September 11 1854, and September 9 1855. The Turkish Crimea War Medal 1855 was conferred by the Sultan of Turkey to British, French, and Sardinian troops which took part in the Crimean War. The medal was issued in three languages with many British troops receiving a French or Sardinian issue, because a ship carrying British medals was wrecked. ( thats interesting !! ) A total of 111 Victoria Crosses were awarded during the Crimean War.

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« Reply #215 on: Monday 28 April 08 02:07 BST (UK) »


As I have an interest in Army Chaplains .... I thought this was interesting !!

Commemorative Cross to the Clergy for the (Crimean) War of 1853-1856

Copper cross clechee with decorated and enlarged points and with rays between the arms, a loop for suspension at the top - the face with a central medallion bearing a life-size image of the face of the Medal for the (Crimean) War of 1853-1856 with the inter-twined crowned ciphers of Emperors Nicholas I and Alexander II surmounted by the radiant all-seeing eye and dated 1853-1854-1855-1856; the reverse with a central medallion bearing a life-size image of the reverse of the Medal for the (Crimean) War of 1853-1856 inscribed ‘НА ТЯ ГОСРОДИ УПОВАХОМЪ, ДА НЕ ПОСТЬІДИМСЯ ВО ВЕКИ’ (We have set our hopes in Thee O Lord, Let us never be ashamed) the cross measures 58mm by 99mm (2¼ by 3⅞ inches)
The Cross was instituted on 26 August 1856 to commemorate the end of the Crimean War and is known in the official documentation as the ‘Cross to the Clergy for the Eastern War’. It was intended to recognise the key role played by the Orthodox Church in giving religious and moral support and comfort to both front-line troops and their families and to those many civilians supporting the war effort. The Crimean War was fought by an alliance of Britain, France, Sardinia and Ottoman Turkey against the Russian Empire with the aim of checking the expansion of the latter. Over one and a quarter million Russians were involved in combat and more than 100,000 became casualties to enemy action and disease. This example is of considerable age and matches reliable examples.

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