1891 census - John Cox

[Gillg]

I'm looking for a John Cox born c 1840, married but not living with his wife Annie in 1891, almost certainly in Hunts (she was in Lancs).  Ancestry index shows one John living on his own at that time, but I fear this might be the widowed brick labourer I've come across before in 1881.

Another John Cox around the same age was living in Graffham with his wife Ann/Fran and children in 1881.  I'd be interested to know where they were in 1891, too, if someone could help, please.

Just trying to solve the riddle of whether my gt-grandmother's second husband was also her cousin.   That may sound complicated, but when you know that his sister was married to the brother of her first husband's sister's husband, you'll know why I'm going crazy... 

Many thanks

Gillg

[suzard]

This looks like the "other" one

1891
Grafham
Hunts
John Cox head M 45 ag lab
Ann wife 49
Fanny louisa daughter 10
all b grafham
RG12 12442 164 7

Suz

[jamajo]

Hi Gillg,

        Do you know where your John was born?

    I have found a John Cox b Buckden age 51 living with his mother Sarah age 81 b Godmanshester.

   This was in 1891 in Buckden. Could this be him?

                    Sue

  

[Gillg]

Thanks, Suz

That takes care of that one, then.  He can't have married gt-gran in 1884!

Thank you.

Gill

[Gillg]

Sue

John of Buckden is a distinct possiblility.  Does it say whether he was married and what his occupation was?  And the mother of the one I believe to be gt-gran's second husband would have been Sarah.  Maybe he left Annie and her children in Lancs to visit his elderly (ailing?) mother.  Is he a resident or a visitor?  Buckden is good, too.  It has been mentioned in connection with him.  He actually died in Hunts (possibly Buckden) too.

Thanks so much for this.

Gill

[jamajo]

Hi Again Gillg,

             John and his mother are both down as wids.

             Johns occ is General dealer and his mother is down as living with son.

                Address is 18 Mill Road.

                                       Sue

[Gillg]

Sue

This has to be my man! According to my records "my" John was born c1840 in Buckden.  His mother was Sarah born c1811 in Godmanchester.  The only thing that doesn't match is the status widower, but he does seem to have been separated from his wife anyway, as he also died in Hunts while she was in permanent residence with her children in Lancs. 

Now I've found him in 1881 living with mother Sarah in Marske in Guisborough, Yorks with 6 year old nephew William Cox, who was born there.  John is an Ironstone Miner.  Still trying to work out the title nephew, as John only had two sisters, as far as I know.  Incidentally, John's birthplace is given as Buckdew, Hunts.

Sarah lived on to the age of 93 and her death is registered in St Neots.  Not sure about John's death, as there are several which might fit.

Where is he in 1871, I wonder, and does he then have a wife?  There's a possibility in the Ancestry index in Cheshire and in 1861 in Hunts.  Could one of you kind persons please help?

Thanks so much for the information so far.  It certainly seems now that the relationship scenario which I mentioned in my first message is correct.

Regards,

Gill

[jamajo]

Hi Gill,

        Have you got this 1841 Buckden

James Cox age 32 occ ag lab
Sarah Cox age 30
Mary Cox age 6
Sarah Cox age 4
Betsey Cox age 2
John Cox age 6 months

          All born Huntingdonshire

                      Sue

[jamajo]

  And in 1851 Buckden

Sarah Cox head age 40 b Godmanchester occ charwoman
Sarah dau age 14
Elizabeth dau age 12
John son age 10
James son age 6
George S son age 4

All born Buckden except Sarah, Betsey is now Elizabeth. Address 108 High Street

                      Sue