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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 12 March 08 23:37 GMT (UK) »
hi

ooo well done Mum!! :o great find ! ... pity he was gone at 18. Wonder who his mum and dad were?

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 March 08 06:13 GMT (UK) »


Karen M sent me the index for the 1880 US census .... I wonder if somebody could give me the rest please !  :) I'd love the rest of the family and address if possible !!

Name -  George H. Baynes
Home in 1880 -  Elbert Colorado
Age -  43
Birthplace -  East India
Relation to Head of Household -  Something other than a direct relationship
Father's birthplace -  England
Mother's birthplace -  England
Occupation -  Dry Goods Clerk
Marital Status -  Married

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 March 08 07:05 GMT (UK) »


I believe this is him !!  ::) ::) ::) what do you think ??  :-\

"George " Head
Home in 1900 - Colorado Springs El Paso Colorado
Age -    63
Birthplace -    England   
wife -   Maria aged 64
other -      Marie F 14
other -      Ethel Smith 11
Occupation - Grocer
Immigration Year -   1866

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 March 08 07:49 GMT (UK) »



This is a list of regiments that went to New Zealand in that time period ... and George said "allied himself with the New Zealand colonists in their struggle with the natives" ....  ::) ::) ::) I imagine he'd be with the cavalry .... but  ...... how to find out ... that's the question ??

British Units that served in New Zealand

12th (East Suffolk) Regiment of Foot  - 1st Battalion served 1860 - 1866
14th (Buckinghamshire) Regiment of Foot - 2nd Battalion served 1860 - 1867
18th (Royal Irish) Regiment of Foot  - 2nd Battalion served 1863 - 1870
40th (Somersetshire) Regiment of Foot - Served 1860 - 1866
43rd (Monmouthshire) Light Infantry  - Served 1863 - 1866
50th (Queens Own) Regiment of Foot  - Served 1863 - 1866
57th (West Middlesex) Regiment of Foot  - Served 1860 - 1866
58th (Rutlandshire) Regiment of Foot  - Served 1845 - 1858
65th (2nd Yorkshire North Riding) Regiment of Foot  - Served 1846 - 1865 
68th (Durham) Light Infantry - Served 1864 - 1866
70th (Surrey) Regiment of Foot  - Served 1863 - 1866
80th (Staffordshire Volunteers) Regiment of Foot - Served 1840 - 1845
96th Regiment of Foot  - Served 1841 - 1847
99th (Lanarkshire Volunteers) Regiment of Foot  - Served 1845 - 1847
Royal Artillery - Various detachments served 1845 - 1870 (from 1861 mainly 4th Brigade - C and I Batteries). Also served as cavalry in Taranaki and the Waikato.
Royal Corps of Sappers and Miners - Served from 1835. In 1857 the Corps became the Royal Engineers
Royal Engineers - mainly 6th Company. Served until 1870, although most left in 1866.
Army Medical Department - Served 1860 - 1866
Army Hospital Corps - Served 1861 - 1870
Commissariat Staff Corps - Served 1861 - 1870
Puveyor's Department
Chaplain's Department
Military Train and Horse Transport Corps - 4th Battalion. Served 1861 - 1866. Served as cavalry, most notably Nukumaru, as well as transport and supply.
Royal Marines and Royal Marine Artillery - Serving on various Royal Navy ships. Served 1769, 1845 - 46, 1860, 1863 - 64
Naval Brigade - Men from various Royal Navy and E.I.C. ships - Served 1845 - 1846, 1860 - 1864
Royal New Zealand Fencible Corps (military Pensioners) - four settlements established south of Auckland 1847-48
Colonial Forces of the Period 1840 - 1865

Wellington Militia - involved in fighting in 1846
New Plymouth Militia - established 1855, became Taranaki Militia in 1858. Fought in Taranaki 1860-61, most notably Waireka.
Taranaki Volunteer Rifles - fought in Taranaki 1860-61, most notably Waireka and Mahoetahi.
Napier Militia - established 1859
Wairarapa Militia - established 1860
Wanganui Militia - established 1860
Rangitikei Militia - established 1864
Auckland Militia - established 1843
Waikato Militia - established 1863 - four regiments, mostly recruited in Australia
New Zealand Forest Rangers - volunteers - established 1863 - two companies
Colonial Defence Force Cavalry
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 March 08 08:04 GMT (UK) »
Here http://www.armymuseum.co.nz/ might be  good start,
or even here http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/

I could try a visit to the latter if you can narrow it down a bit.
I have done a bit of research there recently and found the staff most helpfull and I just walked in of the street un announced

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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 March 08 08:58 GMT (UK) »
This looks like him - 4th Light Dragoons...

http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/4ths/dragoonb/baynes1.html
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 March 08 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi
It might be worth contacting the archvist at Eton.  They may well have information about him after he left and will almost certainly have his parentage, address etc.
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 13 March 08 09:29 GMT (UK) »
Per that archive extract http://shadowsoftime.co.nz/4ths/dragoonb/baynes1.html, Baynes was transferred to the Military Train in 1856.

There's an item in NZ's Daily Southern Cross 9 April 1866 about a George Baynes, arrested at Port Waikato and alleged to have deserted from the Military Train at Aldershot in April 1857 http://www.rootschat.com/links/02yv/
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« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 March 08 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Same NZ paper 4 April 1867 he pleads guilty to being a deserter and is handed over to the military http://www.rootschat.com/links/02yw/
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