Finding ancestors in Northumberland

[ladyloo]

mary janes father = john george lightley.william white father=Thomas Henry white died tynemouth aged 48yrs

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Ladyloo

I think I have found Mary in 1891 at Coach Road Bedlington Northumberland

John G Lightly 26 M head b Woodhorn, Northumberland tailor
Margaret 25 M wife b Bedlington, Northumberland
William H 3 son b Bedlington, Northumberland
Mary J 2 dau b Bedlington, Northumberland
John 6m son b Bedlington, Northumberland

RG12/4256 Folio 90 Page 42

Willow x

[ladyloo]

I think my sisters have found more on lightley family its the white family we keep losing cheers for the info need 2 xcheck with my sisters info thanx.

[aspin]

Ladyloo

Welcome to rootschat from one Northumbrian
When you come to Morpeth take a trip down to Woodhorn you will be able to find your family there
Bring with you dates and names this will help you
By the way there are Lightly's living in Seahouses just up the coast from me ,not saying they are relatives but theres always a chance

happy hunting
Enjoy Northumberland while you are here

Elizabeth

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Ladyloo

You dont have any more information about William or Thomas Henry White do you?

The Thomas Henry who died 1909 Tynemouth would have been born c1860/61. The only ones in 1901 living Tynemouth are b 1857 who is a lodger with his son George in the Stobbs household and a Thomas White b 1851 who does have a son William aged 17

Do you have the death certificate for Thomas Henry? Because that might yield more clues ie who registered the death or even better Williams birth certificate or his mothers name or his year of birth

Willow x

[ladyloo]

Dear elizabeth thanx 4 reply spent the dat at woodhorn got totally confused staff appeared irritated when we needed help we found nothing new there we had this info b4 we went.Perhaps we r doing something wrong any ideas please.

[ladyloo]

Dear willow thanx 4 help we know very little about our grandfather let alone great-grandfather which is causing lots of confusion. We ave bought certificates but they r not our family.I havent got certificates so cant give info. we know william married mary jane that his father was thomas henry but we dont know if they originate from northeast or elsewhere. My dad was born in ashington so we believe they r gerdies. thats all we know. My dad does not know his parents birthdays he was in home form age 5 his mother died. Grandad went to yorkshire around 1936 only a guess

[Willow 4873]

Hiya ladyloo

I understand how frustrating this must be for you. Lets try it from a different angle

Who are the witnesses on William and Marys marriage certificate? they might offer a clue

As Mary was b c 1889 I'm guessing William was about the same age (does it give his age on the marriage certificate?)

In 1891 there are 4 Williams with fathers Thomas with birth years ranging from 1880 to 1888 so there is a good chance it is one of these

They are all there in 1901 with their fathers. I'm wondering if Thomas henrys death is just listed with his first name. Between 1902 and 1911 there are the death of 8 Thomas who are old enough to be Williams father but 4 I have discounted because they would have been in their late 50s to 60s - not impossible I know but unless they had a younger wife she would be too old to be williams mother

1 - 1902 aged 64 castle ward - c 1864 - no william listed with someone that age in 1901 but 2 listed 1891 but both in their mid 20s
2 - 1903 aged 47 newcastle - c 1856 - one who has william listed 1901 aged 13 so this is a possible - they are in Elswick
3 - 1903 aged 62 Tynemouth - c 1841 - this one stands a good chance because there is one who has a son william aged 17 in 1901 and they are living in amble bedlington
4 - 1904 aged 64 Newcastle - c 1836 - only has a son William in 1891 but he is 25 and none in 1901 listed with their father

The death for Thomas Henry 1909 - I cant find a Thomas c 1860 with a william in 1901

If you want the details for the possibles let me know

Willow x

[ladyloo]

willow sister visiting geting info together certificate we have is not relevant. thomas henry died Tynemouth register 10b 152 june 1909 we know that is right we cannot find him born or wed. on williams marriage his father-in-law is witness and a woman whose name i will decipher 4 next message. thank u 4 your interest and help. father in law john george lightley.