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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 16 March 08 22:59 GMT (UK) »
I have to say, going on shape alone from what we can see of the cap badge, it looks to me vaguely maple leaf shaped. So General Service/Universal pattern Canadian cap badge?
A few typical examples here:
http://www.mpmuseum.org/ww1badge1.html

Any Canadian connection in the family?

That's my best guess anyway.

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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:02 GMT (UK) »
It could be DLI but the badge just looks too symmetrical.

Might they be brothers ? Can you post your grandfather's surname?
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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all comments - no canadian in the family that I know of, I must say I am now very curious, my grandfather was called James Robert Livingston.  :) :)

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:06 GMT (UK) »
Sorry forgot to say my grandfather was an only child as far as I know, his mother died when he was 3 years old and cannot find any trace of his father after she died. :) :)


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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:18 GMT (UK) »
No, definitely not DLI. The bugle horn is always immediately obvious in a light infantry badge.





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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:19 GMT (UK) »
Could it be the intelligence corps ??

Kev.

No...that badge which I'm afraid is quite unlike the one pictured was not known until past 1940 after the Corps was formed...

It could be DLI but the badge just looks too symmetrical.

Might they be brothers ? Can you post your grandfather's surname?

No no the DLI either, nothing like a Bugle Horn I'm afraid...

I have to say, going on shape alone from what we can see of the cap badge, it looks to me vaguely maple leaf shaped. So General Service/Universal pattern Canadian cap badge?
A few typical examples here:
http://www.mpmuseum.org/ww1badge1.html

Any Canadian connection in the family?

That's my best guess anyway.



Yep I'd say Canadian, but perhaps 18th or 19th Bn CEF Western Ontario...

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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Soz, don't know his name but the other person in the original photo is my grandfather and he lived in Hebburn Tyne & Wear and am assuming the photo was taken in Newcastle upon Tyne.  Thought it may be the DLI but he does look very important (and formidable!) doesn't he.  :)

I actually thought that the standing chap is quite younger than the seated one...He looks prematurely aged...He has that 1000 yard stare in his eyes and he is quite gaunt...

The standing chap looks quite pleased to see him though
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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 March 08 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Could it be the intelligence corps ??

Kev.

No...that badge which I'm afraid is quite unlike the one pictured was not known until past 1940 after the Corps was formed...
Not according to their website or wikipedia which both say formed 1914!!

And to me it clearly looks nothing like the Mable leaf that been posted as there is a shadow between the "side leaves" and centre section that makes it look like more of an oval shape in the centre, although i can see that it may be some sort of maple leaf.

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Re: Help in identifying army uniform
« Reply #17 on: Monday 17 March 08 00:22 GMT (UK) »
Could it be the intelligence corps ??

Kev.

No...that badge which I'm afraid is quite unlike the one pictured was not known until past 1940 after the Corps was formed...
Not according to their website or wikipedia which both say formed 1914!!

And to me it clearly looks nothing like the Mable leaf that been posted as there is a shadow between the "side leaves" and centre section that makes it look like more of an oval shape in the centre, although i can see that it may be some sort of maple leaf.

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Well to my eyes..It is nothing like the Int Corps!!  ::) :P

Their badge is far too small to take up that much room on an SD Trench Cap...

The Int Corps existed in name only in WW1 and were formed by army order 112/40 which also held the sealed pattern for the cap badge...

I am surprised that you feel it is nothing like the one I have posted...You can see an oval in the middle... I see a circle with a crown...Rather like the one I have posted, and I'm afraid totally unlike the Int Corps...

Why may I ask is it clearly nothing like the Western Ontario??? You have lost me in your description of what you see.... ???
One more charge and then be dumb,
            When the forts of Folly fall,
        May the victors when they come
            Find my body near the wall.