selina walton.

[xpq194z]

hello . can any-one help me please. my uncle fred walton
(brought up with the smith family 1916.) has rung up and asked me if i can do a trace of the waltons .have not renewed with ancestry yet. had a quick look on the free 1881 census .have walter walton age 23.married to selina walton . age 21 afraid do not know selina surname before marriage .to walter. freds dad died in the first world war . as he was only one .when father died . frederick walton 1915 in the somme.did not get chance to ask any-one .about walter and selina. he thinks selina died young .and walter remarried..but not hundred percent sure.
 have mary e walton age 3. thomas h walton age 2.all living in 4 queens street .
the waltons lived in york he said..
have elise russell and frederick walton married cert.
when frederick died ,elise  married my grandfather thomas edward smith .1919.
been very busy on the smith family . so had not looked at the walton line 1901 backwards yet.so if any-one could throw me a life line on the waltons .would be very pleased .
                mike

[PaulineJ]

You could do with more facts and fewer words...

You believe that this is the correct 1881 family?
4 Queen Street, York.

Walter Walton    23 Carriage b Bawtry Oiler on Railway
Selina Walton    21 b york
Mary E. Walton     3 b York
Thomas H. Walton    2 b York

Sept 1877 has a birth reg for Selina Elizabeth Walton. Vol 9d  P18

march 1876 Has a marriage for Walter Walton. no selina, but a Mary & a Maria
Vol 9d P78

1891 census; RG12/3888; F30; P8  All b York
Bright street. York.

Walter Walton    33 Gen Labourer.
Mary Walton    31
Selina E Walton    13
Thomas H Walton    12
George Edward Walton     9
Rose Walton    7
Walter Walton    4
Mary Walton    2

1901: RG13/4441; F145; P31

Walter is widowed.

Mary Walton d Sept qtr 1900 (b 1859)  Aged 41.  Vol 9d P 46

[xpq194z]

hi . was just giving you a quick insight to how walton name ties up with the smith family .
yes this is the correct family .would give more facts if had them.?
                 mike
                 

[PaulineJ]

How can you be sure that the mother is Selina and not Mary?

Check c 1898 Walton births for York, deaths 1993-on for the selins/Mary Walton and see what Walter Walton marriages occur in York area in the right timeframe(s)

Pauline

[xpq194z]

hi pauline, i am not sure? this information can from fred walton who is 91.he tells me walter was married to selina .
 they had children . selina died .walter married again.
 am hoping you can put me right .cannot get on ances.
 but will be in norwich on sat . maybe try my luck ,there with what you have given me .then get back to uncle fred.
 thanks pauline .
           mike

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hello pauline.found a letter from fred with bits in it. on walton .my grandmother was selina my grandfather was walter walton born about 1858.in bawtry.his father was thomas walton born about 1827.
this is all i know.
thanks for finding walter in 1901.if selina married in 1872?born 1860?selina did not live over 40.?
              mike

[PaulineJ]

Doesn't look like walter was married to a selina, at least not from freebmd.
Review previous posting for evidence...
Getting the 1877 birth certificate would be be way to go. http://www.yorkshirebmd.info/

Pauline

[PaulineJ]

WHO was it that was the father of Fred (b1913/1914)? you write "frederick walton 1915 in the somme".
I can't see any match on the CWGC site, nor any fred as a child of Walter & wife...

Pauline

[xpq194z]

hi pauline .frederick walton .married elise russell in 1915 3rd april,in the parish of st cuthbert .york.
frederick was 21 . profession .waterman. address 10 wilsons
yard .aldwark.father walter walton.labourer.
elise and frederick had twins in 1915.18th june .
florence may.3.20.am.and frederick nathaniel walton 2.50.am.
frederick walton was born in rotherham 1916.1st august,
frederick walton 1/5th battalion .york&lancaster regiment .
 killed in action 29th april 1918.
private 43988.
 tyne cot memorial.
 ps. have no idea what happened to to the to children of elise.
 fred has no knowlege of them .he was surprised when i showed him the birth cert.wondered why not told ,
bit of a shock to find out at 90 .
              mike