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Medal Card 'translation' please?
« on: Saturday 22 March 08 09:52 GMT (UK) »
Amongst a late relative's effects, I have have found a photocopy of the medal card for my husband's grandfather, Harry William NOYES, but it's a poor copy and I'd appreciate some help deciphering it.

Under 'Corps' it says 'ASCMT' - could anyone tell me what this is please?   I'm guessing it's something to do with motor transport?

Although it's clear he was a private, his service number (206544) is prefaced by something which could be either DM1/ or DM2/

The 'Date of Discharge' column has 4-1-18 written in it, then below that is a printed word which I can't read, but looks as though it ends in '....ment' and beneath that is written, 2-3-16

Finally, in the last column which I believe is headed 'Details of Discharge' is the handwritten S AC 265/7 Para 2 followed by what I think is b 1 or could that be 6 1?

I'd be really grateful if someone could 'interpret' this information for me please.   





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Re: Medal Card 'translation' please?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 March 08 10:09 GMT (UK) »
 :-[ :-[ :-[ 

Just realised - idiot that I am - that it's merely a matter of searching the National Archive website.   

Having found a translation of said card, is there any way I can now find out where he served?

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Re: Medal Card 'translation' please?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 March 08 10:46 GMT (UK) »
Its possibly an entitlement to SWB as he was discharged....Any chance of posting it?

If it is a SWB there is a roll to get some details off but you need to get it from the NA.

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Re: Medal Card 'translation' please?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 March 08 11:06 GMT (UK) »
hi mogsmum

medal card on ancestry
regimental no. dm2/206544
army service corps(mt)
the word you can't read is - enlistment 2. 3-16

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Re: Medal Card 'translation' please?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 March 08 12:21 GMT (UK) »
hi

record of service(ancestry) 14/8/16 regimental no. 206544
harry william noyes
36 briant street new cross SE
age 20 years 150 days
fitter & machinist
not married
M.T. LEARNER
next of kin - albert noyes(father) 35 siebert(?) road blackheath SE
home 14/8/1916 - 31/12/1916
france 1/1/1917 - 8/2/1917
home 9/2/1917 - 4/1/1918

reserve(?) 2/3/16
called up 14/8/16
grove park 15/8/16
transferred to learners section 19/8/16
passed learners test 31/10/16
embarked for B.E.F france 1/1/1917
discharged 4/1/18 no longer physically for war service para 392(xv1) K.R.

army service corps MT 381 COY
date of discharge 4/1/18
character - good
physically unfit - chronic gastritis(?)
disability since childhood not caused by military service
gratuity - 20 pounds
service allowance(?) - 10 pounds
the pension appeal tribunal disallowed this case 4/9/19

hope this helps

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Re: Medal Card 'translation' please?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 March 08 15:02 GMT (UK) »
pte 3685 harry william noyes
22nd london regt
enlisted 14-5-15
aged 19
177 rotherhithe rd,rotherhithe.
confectioners assistant
next of kin listed as jemima ruddy[aunt].17 gillingall rd,peckham.
in lewisham military hospital 4-6-15 till 16-6-15
suffering from abdominal pains[severe gastritis]
cause of illness,swallowed acid when he was a child
discharged from the army on 2-7-15,not likely to become an efficient soldier.
the army considered him too ill to serve,but harry had other ideas,cos he joined up again as pte 206544[see evs reply]

sounds like a gutsy little fella,he wasnt gonna let the army stop him fighting.

mack ;D
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Re: Medal Card 'translation' please?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 March 08 18:14 GMT (UK) »
Can I just say a really HUGE thank you - so much information in so short a time, I'm so grateful.

How, I wonder did he come to 'swallow acid as a child'?  Not from the sweets I hope!    Harry, the Army may like to know, went on to become a cable worker and later a Millwright, he married had two children and lived well into his late 60s - not bad for someone considered (at one time) too unfit to become an efficient soldier!

Thank you again.


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Re: Medal Card 'translation' please?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 March 08 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Looks like he has an Entry on the Army Service Corps SWB List page 2037

looking it up probably wont give you anymore info than you already have unless you are after his SWB serial number.

Ady
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