Orchard Family

[Kerilane]

Hi,
I'm trying to find birth references for my Great Grandfather Thomas Orchard.
On the census records it says he was born at Dorchester,Oxon in 1846-1848.
His mother was Harriet Orchard,believed to have been born in Burford around 1814.
Thomas is on the 1861 census living with his mother,Gideon Davis (who later becomes his step-father), sisters Rachel and Mary,and his brothers Joseph and Jonathon,unfortunately i can't find any earlier ref on Thomas or Harriet.
I would appreciate any help.

[PaulineJ]

1861 census (in Full)  RG9/908; F25; P11

Gideon Davis     33
Harriett Orchard    50 Housekeeper b Oxford
Thomas Orchard    15  b Dorchester
Rachael Orchard    12 b Sutton (Hampshire)
Joseph Orchard    9 b Hanwell (Berks)
Mary Orchard    9 b Hanwell (berks)
Jonathan Orchard    6 B Fullbrook (Oxon)

This seems to be the only definite birth entry.
 Dec 1854   Orchard,    Jonathan         Witney    3a   520

1871 census in full  RG10/1454; F43; P8

Gibson Davis     45
Harriet Davis    50
Rachel Orchard    21 b Hants, Sutton
Joseph Orchard    18 Berks, Harwell
Mary Orchard    18 Berks, Harwell
Jonathan Orchard    14 Oxon, Fulbrook
Clara Orchard    3  Oxon, Fulbrook

[heywood]

Hello Kerilane,
welcome to rootschat. What a puzzle. At the moment, I can't find anything!
There are Orchards in Burford in 1851 and 1841 - but no trace of Harriet. I wonder whether she was married to a Mr Orchard first, then to Gideon?
This would be shown on the marriage certificate which may turn some information up.
Also looking on Free BMD for other children's birth registrations may help with her previous name (if any).
Will have another look round.
best wishes
heywood

[jillruss]

Thomas's baptism entry in the Dorchester PRs is interesting:

Mar 29 1846 Thomas ARCHET s/o Harriet single woman, gypsy without fixed residence.

I nearly missed him because of the 'Archet', but there don't appear to be any more children baptised to Harriet in Dorchester.

If they really were travellers, that may explain why they weren't picked up on the earlier censuses?

Jill

[heywood]

that sounds good Jill. Sometimes, you sit here and wish that someone, somewhere would find what you are missing, don't you!
I have searched with all sorts of combination to no avail - including Archard.

[DebbieG]

Hi

I have just found in the baptisms at Harwell Berks

June 5th 1851
Mary & Joseph twin children of Harriot ARCHEL single travelling woman

I checked free BMD and they seem to be registered as ARCHARD June qtr 1851 wantage reg dist

 

Debbie

[DebbieG]

The marriage appears to be in Free BMD too

Marriages Dec 1864   
 
DAVIS  Gideon    Wallingford  2c 669   
Goodey  Sarah Ann     Wallingford  2c 669   
ORCHARD  Harriett     Wallingford  2c 669   
Smith  Richard     Wallingford  2c 669


Debbie

[DebbieG]

I looked at the 1861 and 1871 where we can find Harriet,  and both times she gives her place of birth as Oxford oxfordshire,  which would mean the city of Oxford

I found this baptism from St Thomas's Oxford
1818 3rd May Harriet d/o James & Sarah Orchard basket maker of Ox Street (married St Thomas's)

they also had Caroline in 1820 and Mary Ann in 1822

marriage 1815 May 7th James Orchard OTP x to Sarah Warren OTP x
witnessed by Richard Joes, Joseph Whitleaves & George Morgan

 

Debbie

[heywood]

not sure here:

1841 HO107; Piece 891; Book: 18;  Folio: 34; Page: 7

 Hamel Oxford
James Orchard 50 yrs basket maker not born in county
Hannah 40 yrs not born in county
Mary A 15 yrs yes- born in county

next entry
Jesse Tritton 20 yrs labourer not b i c
Harriott Tritton 20 yrs  yes b i c
Caroline Orchard 18 rys  yes b i c
Charles Orchard 75 yrs smith not b i c
Esther Orchard 64 yrs b i c

best wishes
heywood