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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:19 BST (UK) »
Osprey - Jane's death certs says;

When and where died - Eighth July 1902 Union Workhouse, Middlesbrough UD
Name - Jane Williams
Sex - female
Age - 28 years
Occupation - widow of William Williams, Iron Shearer, Kendal Street, Middlesbrough
Cause of death - Cerebral Haemorrhage certified by J Weightman MB
Signiture, description and residence of informann - X the mark of Elizabeth Ann Hewitt, sister, In attendance, 8 Princes Street, South Bank
When registered - Twelfth July 1901
Signiture of Registrar - J Bowes

I have no idea where Kendal Street comes from, according to census' Jane never lived there, nor does it appear on any BMD's, only Wood St and Stapylton St, both in Grangetown.

I wish they'd had a child with an outlandish name too, but as per normal they don't like to make things easy for us do they!!  I will contact Blaenau Gwent as soon as my dissertation is done - otherwise Liz'll shout at me!!!

Liz - I did contact someone (can't remember who) about workhouse records, they wanted £30 per hour to do a search but said finding anything more than I know would be rare.....being a student I obv can't afford that right now, esp if the chances of locating something as so low....

Sorry I can't be of more help!!!

Thank you so much for percivering (sp?!)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:26 BST (UK) »
No, no, I hope I dont shout!

Why not put a request on Rootschat just to see if anyone happens to be going to the Record Office that covers Middlesbrough, and could ask if they have have any workhouse records for 1901- 1902 ish?

GRR if only we could find Kendal Street middlebrough in 1901
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:30 BST (UK) »
Good plan Liz,  I'll do that now.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:32 BST (UK) »
Clutching at straws now

Jane didnt have a big ssiter Mary who married a Thorpe did she?

See RG13 4582 8 7
there is a 6 year old niece, with no name at all, listed with a William and Mary Thorpe.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:39 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=297680.new#new


I'll have a look Liz, I thought I'd found all Jane's siblings except Margaret and none of them had the girls with them.....
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:41 BST (UK) »
I can't see a Mary Williams marrying a William Thorpe in North Yorkshire on FreeBMD.....
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:43 BST (UK) »
said it was clutching at straws.

Right - there are 72 enumaration districts in Middlesbrough in 1901
see http://content.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=7814&path=Yorkshire.Middlesbrough

I've started at 72 and am working upwards, looking for Kendal Street
Anyone want to join in the challenge and start at 1 and work down?

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:48 BST (UK) »
Blimey Liz - are you sure you don't mind?

I'm gonna have to bail out I'm afriad, not written any dissertation yet today and the dog wants a walk.....

I really do appreciate you doing this for me.

Have fun ;)

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: William Williams' in Wales...Is he a lost cause?
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 11:53 BST (UK) »
Its not that bad - I'm up to 58 already!

I'll keep on till I'm totally cross eyed then will reporback where I'm up to!

But must be someone who'll start from 1 and work down?  Osprey? Where's my friend Carol?

(Didnt think students had dogs!!!!)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk