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Offline jjq

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Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« on: Monday 07 April 08 11:26 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have an ancestor (Phoebe Knobbs nee Germany) and on the census for 1851 I have the attched, but I cannot read the place name - second line down - Norfolk


Can anyone help?

Many thanks on advance.

Jan
Hertfordshire - Stone, Wells, Quarry,Claxton
London - Sutton (Southwark/Clerkenwell), Phillips (Clerkenwell), Stone (Chelsea)
Suffolk - Turner & Rogers (Lavenham)
Norfolk - (K)Nobbs & Germany (Norwich)
Middlesex - Shackell
Anywhere - Quarry & variants
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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 April 08 11:47 BST (UK) »
Ancestry have transcribed it as 'Fordon' , which is what it looks like to me.  However there doesn't seem to be such a place in Norfolk, the closest are  Flordon, and Fordham. 

As Phoebe is living in Middlesex, and the enumerator probably unfamiliar with the place name, it may have looked/sounded like Fordon as written or spoken.   
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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 April 08 11:48 BST (UK) »
Agree Flordon or Fordham seem most likely.

See Genuki Norfolk places list http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/#f
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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 April 08 11:59 BST (UK) »
Many thanks to both of you, for your prompt replies.  It will give me something to work on ..... as the census entry for 1861 is even more illegible!!

I know she married in 1834 at Heigham St Bartholmew, Norwich but no trace of a baptism.

Back to the drawing board.

I have attached the 1861 entry , but it is not a great deal of help!(top line)

Regards and thanks once again

Jan
Hertfordshire - Stone, Wells, Quarry,Claxton
London - Sutton (Southwark/Clerkenwell), Phillips (Clerkenwell), Stone (Chelsea)
Suffolk - Turner & Rogers (Lavenham)
Norfolk - (K)Nobbs & Germany (Norwich)
Middlesex - Shackell
Anywhere - Quarry & variants
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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 April 08 12:08 BST (UK) »
1861 reads, Norfolk, N.K. (ie Not Known). 
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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 19:02 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I see on Free Reg that there are some GERMANYs baptised in Foulden 1809 and 1810, both named Edmund with parents Moody Steel and Mary GERMANY - So, could it be Foulden on the census? No Pheobe on Free Reg at Foulden though but there is one baptised and born 1826  Sprowston with parents Wm & Hannah GERMANY - too young for your Phoebe but could be connected.

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MITCHELL,NEAL,PAGE,PALMER,PIGOTT,RATTHAM,RICHES,RIX,RUST,
SCOTT,STEGGLES,THOMPSON,TILLS,WALE,WHITE
Cambs-BUZZARD,CRICK,COX,DARLEY,FLINDERS,GARRETT,GREEN, GROUNDS,HOLLINSTEAD,NORMAN,PAYNE,TYERS,WILKINSON
Sfk-BULL,COWELL,FINCHAM,MASON,TOKELOVE,TRETT
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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 April 08 21:52 BST (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for your messages - I had noticed the other Phoebe and had a look at the line.

My Phoebe married in 1834 .... but there are baptisms for 2 of their children - supposedly in 1821 and 1826 at Norwich St Michael Coslany.  I think I'll have to get copies of the entries as these appear on IGI ("exctracted record."... etc). Confused? I certainly am.


Many thanks once again and I will have a look at the Freereg entries.

Regards


Jan
Hertfordshire - Stone, Wells, Quarry,Claxton
London - Sutton (Southwark/Clerkenwell), Phillips (Clerkenwell), Stone (Chelsea)
Suffolk - Turner & Rogers (Lavenham)
Norfolk - (K)Nobbs & Germany (Norwich)
Middlesex - Shackell
Anywhere - Quarry & variants
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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Location - Phoebe Germany
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 April 08 12:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

Have checked the Freereg site and did some variations on the surname and came up with.....

Phobe  Jermin - base born daughter of Mary Jermin, born 1799 at Foulden, Norfolk.

Am also following up Moody and family. There is Jarmany/Jermny website which I have also checked out (this has given me a lot of the surname variations that I have now tried out.)

Have also ordered copies of the daughters baptism entries.

Many thanks once again for your suggestion.

Regards

Jan
Hertfordshire - Stone, Wells, Quarry,Claxton
London - Sutton (Southwark/Clerkenwell), Phillips (Clerkenwell), Stone (Chelsea)
Suffolk - Turner & Rogers (Lavenham)
Norfolk - (K)Nobbs & Germany (Norwich)
Middlesex - Shackell
Anywhere - Quarry & variants
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Help needed reading Norfolk Loccation
« Reply #8 on: Monday 14 April 08 14:24 BST (UK) »
The first one looks like "Norfolk Town" to me (which I know does not make a lot of sense)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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