conflicting IGI records

[mike175]

I have found 2 conflicting sets of christening records in the IGI, for the chidren of Charles and Elizabeth Wheat; Mary Wheat 1 Jun 1783, and Ann Wheat 23 Jul 1786.

Both are described as "Extracted birth or christening record", but 1 set is for the parish of Hope, Derbyshire, the other for Hartington, about 20 miles away I believe.

Can anyone help or suggest how I can find which is correct?

Mike.

[Bill749]

Hi Mike

At the risk of stating the obvious, probably the only way to check is to look at the original registers for both parishes - if they are, as the IGI says, extracted records, there should be film numbers on the records for the original registers, which you could ask for at your nearest LDS family history centre.

Bill

[spendlove]

Hi Mike,
I usually use Hugh Wallis's site, to cut out Patron Submitted items, however this
was last updated 2002 and in your case this does not help because both records
appear under a C batch number which is surposed to represent Baptisms from
original records.

The Results you get for Hartington have a batch number C054512, on the results
page, also a source call number if you click on this it says the records are from
Hartington Parish Registgers 1610-1968.  So these must be transcribed from the
actual Parish Registers.  This batch number must have been added to IGI since
2002 because Wallis does not show this, he only has C054511 1813-1868 which are
Bishops Transcripts.

The results which appear for Hope batch number C135864, on the results page
shows no source call number - this is of great concern and you have to ask
why does it not show where the records are from?  Is this an error, patron submitted or
what?

Perhaps a question to LDS is in order, unless someone else can help.

Perhaps you are like myself and are unable to travel to the nearest LDS office to
order and look at the original films.

Would be very interested to know what you find out.
Good Luck
Spendlove.

[mike175]

Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, I guess will have to collect together all my queries and take a trip to the nearest LDS centre some day, Bill. But it will have to go on the wish list for now, along with a hundred other things 

Spendlove,
 I think Hartington is more likely, as it's not far from Earl Sterndale, where the couple were married, and the Hope batch shows most of the surnames in brackets, eg. <Wheat>, which makes me wonder if there is an error there 

I think I'll assume Hartington for now, with a cautionary memo about Hope. Meanwhile I'll send a query to LDS.

Thanks for your help. I'll let you know what I find out. 

Mike.

[omskirk]

From Vital records.
Mary Wheat  1/6/1783
parents
Charles & Elizabeth.
recorded in Hope, Derbyshire

[spendlove]

Hi Ormskirk,

Can you please explain what you mean by Vital Records, and where you obtained the
information from? The same record also appears in the Hartington Parish Church Records.

Any help would be appreciated I realy need to understand this entry as it appears
twice on the IGI under different batch numbers, both of which appear to be from
actual records and not Patron Submitted.

Regards
Spendlove

[omskirk]

Dear Spendlove,
                            Vital records are published by the Mormons in the form of a 16 CD set, they often seem to have records that don't appear anywhere else, a sort of odds & ends box.

[spendlove]

Hi Ormskirk,
Thanks for that.

However the problem still exists i.e. the same record in listed in Hartington Parish Church Records  and is also show as an entry for Hope.

Expect it is necessary to look at the original records for both Churches to see
which church  the entry actually appeard in.

Spendlove.

[pharmakon]

Other names exhibit the same peculiarities. I would expect that the Hope one is spurious but obviously you'll now feel bound to check.