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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 April 08 09:39 BST (UK) »
is it possible one child was christened at one place and the other child at the other plac?
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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 April 08 10:06 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

I think I may now have the answer, thanks to a PM from a member who has very kindly offered to look at the LDS film for me.  :)

It seems that Hope was the Mother church for the area, and Hartington was a subsidiary or daughter church. So, I imagine the IGI has replicated the entries, not understanding the heirarchy. Maybe the Bishop's Transcripts covered the whole Mother Church area, and that is why they appear in the Hope parish?

Hartington would seem to be the actual parish where the christenings took place, but I'll post again when/if I get more details.

Thanks for all your contributions.

Mike.
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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 07:21 BST (UK) »
I just received a reply from the LDS, stating:

" . . . the batch showing Hope, Derby, England is in error.  This is a known problem and this is being worked on . . . .  "

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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 12:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike,

Thanks very much for letting us all know that the Hope entries under Batch number
C135864 are incorrect.

You now know that Hartington area is where you should be looking.

Good Luck
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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 15:07 BST (UK) »
Checked Hartington  ( Chapelery of Earl Sterndale) Parish register film No 1041011 at the LDS library

Found Marriage for the children parents 11 July 1782. Charles Wheate to Elizabeth Fern by Lic

The children are not found on the baptism register from 1765 to 1790.
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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 16:07 BST (UK) »
Hi Bill,
This could be another error by IGI.
They have Batch No. M061603  with source call 1041011 listed as records from 1765-1800
for Earl Sterndale which show the marriage of Wheate/Fern.  However the Parish Church
of St. Michael was not built until 1828.
Earl Sterndale is 5 miles South of Buxton.

The Wheate Children are recorded as being Bpt. on Batch Number C054512 with a source call number 1041012 listed as records from Hartington Parish Registers 1610-1968.
Hartington, is in the Hundred of Wirksworth and is about 5miles South West of Bakewell.

At the moment it looks as if they have an incorrect Parish - Earl Sterndale listed on 1041011 this, when they have made their corrections, could well turn out to be marriages
at Hartington.

I am not able to get to an LDS Library, if you have time when you next visit will you ask
if 1041011 is Earl Sterndale or Hartington?

Just concerned that if this is an error - how many others are there.
Regards
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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 16:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Spendlove

I have that film at the moment and have been through it. There is only the marriage for the parents

but no bapts for the children.

Film No 1041011 The Register first page says

Hartington Chapelery of Earl Sterndale
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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 16:43 BST (UK) »
This might throw a little light on the problem . . .

According to http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DBY/Hartington/DARGNotes.html

"The old parish of Hartington was ... divided into four quarters. Town Quarter ... now forms the village of Hartington, Nether Quarter ... the parish of Biggin (1849), Upper Quarter ... the parish of Burbage (1869) and Middle Quarter ... in 1873 became the parish of Earl Sterndale. "

  . . . no wonder the IGI was confused!

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Re: conflicting IGI records
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 16:56 BST (UK) »
All those places  are name on the register I saw today

eg John son of John Smith of Upper Quater  ::)
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