My ABBAY/ABBEY family went to Russia c.1838 !!

[tiggertwo]

Hessu:

2 more photos.

First one is the elderly lady in the family photo which I posted before.

Second one is my grandfather George, his wife Eliza Helen Scotson and my father Edward John.

I'll attach them separately so I don't lose this note.

[tiggertwo]

Hessu:

Photo 1

[tiggertwo]

Hessu/Mike:

Photo 2 - Mike another badge for you!

[tiggertwo]

Hessu:
Photo 1 - Lily

[Myfi!]

Hi Tiggertwo

I don't think that George's cap badge is Russian.  It looks like the ones worn by the Royal Engineers WW1

my dad served in the RE for 20 odd years and it looks very similar.


Myfi

[*MRR*]

I agree on the military cap badge being British, at high resolution it looks like GR.  On the Russian insignia, two of my Russian colleagues I showed it to immediately said Railway Engineer?  Unfortunately, the crossed hammers are used by both mining and railway engineers so a trip to both museums may be required to confirm which it is.  I'll keep you posted.

[Myfi!]

Hi Mike 

Think the GR is George Rex (King George V) later badges (in my dad's time) had ER - Elizabeth Regina (Queen Elizabeth 11)

[tiggertwo]

Interesting, because although my grandfather was born, lived and worked in Russia, he was sent to England to school.  He went to Bishop Vesey in Sutton Coldfield so could probably have gone to College in Birmingham too.  My grandparents were married in Aston, Birmingham and there was a technical college there (now part of Birmingham University I think).

It seems odd though that he would have enlisted in the Royal Engineers and then returned almost immediately to Russia.  As far as I am aware, he never served in WWI as he was in Russia during that period.  I know this for sure because my father was born in Orenburg in early 1917 and my grandfather was apparently engaged in some sort of liaison role between the Tsar and the British Ambassador during these years.

[hessu]

Hello,

Family photos. Old lady to the left in the large family photo and sitting alone in a rocking chair is Eleanor Lee (born 1826 in Bradford (Yorks.), married 26.9.1851 in St. Petersburg, and died Feb.1916,  buried in a local cemetary near Terijoki in the Grand Duchy of Finland (later Rep. of Finland). That area is now in Russia (after WW2) and is still used as cemetary, but the history has all been totally cleared away.

hessu