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baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« on: Tuesday 15 April 08 19:38 BST (UK) »
can anyone help me find the baptisms of john harris and his wife jane ingyon,both probably born around 1760, they were married 12 july 1782 in potton. any info much appreciated.
NORTHANTS -hiams, garrood, bland, smith, richardson, stanion/stanyon, roddis, brown,eales,gibbons, harris, muddiman, longworth, wyatt, rogers, wilcox, inwood, blakeman, blackerby, gardner, wells
BUCKS - hiams/hyams
SUFFOLK - garrood
STAFFS and IRELAND - connor
LEICS - sharp
BEDS - bland, harris
ESSEX -faint
MIDDLESEX - inwood, travers, miller
HERTS - faint, harvey, pamphilon
HAMPSHIRE - suett, vine
W.YORKS - summers

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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 April 08 21:14 BST (UK) »
IGI. Submitted record.



Jane Ingyon birth about 1756 Potton Bedford.

Death 21.4.1831.


John Harris birth about 1761 Potton Beds.
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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 10:25 BST (UK) »
Virtually all of Beds pre 1812 has been extracted onto the 1861, so if they're not on the IGI there are four reasons:
- it's one of the missing parishes (but Potton is covered)
- they weren't baptised in Beds
- they were born in Beds but not baptised for whatever reason, usually non-conformity
- they're on the IGI but with a spelling variation (which might well be the case with a name like Ingyon, but I can't for the life of me think what else it could be!)

Have you checked the marriage entry to see if a parish of residence other than Potton is mentioned? The witnesses might provide a clue as well.

There were no Harris burials in Potton between 1719 and 1791 which implies that John may have come from elsewhere. Potton is only a mile from the Cambridgeshire boundary.

Burials in Potton
Jane Harris age 75 22 Apr 1831
John Harris age 62 2 May 1819
John Harris age 69 8 Aug 1823

David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 19:11 BST (UK) »
many thanks to patrish and david for your help, i havn't seen the original marriage entry so i don't know if potton was the parish of residence for both of them, i know i really need to consult the parish records but it's impossible for the time being, if anyone out there is visiting the r.o. for their own research, maybe they would be so kind as to have a look for me, once again, thank you both for the info.
kind regards.
NORTHANTS -hiams, garrood, bland, smith, richardson, stanion/stanyon, roddis, brown,eales,gibbons, harris, muddiman, longworth, wyatt, rogers, wilcox, inwood, blakeman, blackerby, gardner, wells
BUCKS - hiams/hyams
SUFFOLK - garrood
STAFFS and IRELAND - connor
LEICS - sharp
BEDS - bland, harris
ESSEX -faint
MIDDLESEX - inwood, travers, miller
HERTS - faint, harvey, pamphilon
HAMPSHIRE - suett, vine
W.YORKS - summers


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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 April 08 20:11 BST (UK) »
If you post a separate look up request for the marriage someone with the transcript would be able to check the parish of residence. Witnesses are not in the transcript though

Alternatively you could view the microfilm at your nearest LDS Family History Centre if that's more convenient than going to Bedford.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 April 08 19:04 BST (UK) »
ok david, i'll look into that, thanks a lot
NORTHANTS -hiams, garrood, bland, smith, richardson, stanion/stanyon, roddis, brown,eales,gibbons, harris, muddiman, longworth, wyatt, rogers, wilcox, inwood, blakeman, blackerby, gardner, wells
BUCKS - hiams/hyams
SUFFOLK - garrood
STAFFS and IRELAND - connor
LEICS - sharp
BEDS - bland, harris
ESSEX -faint
MIDDLESEX - inwood, travers, miller
HERTS - faint, harvey, pamphilon
HAMPSHIRE - suett, vine
W.YORKS - summers

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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 April 08 22:29 BST (UK) »
Hello, The marriage in Potton PR just states John Harris, bach to Jane Ingyon, spin; by licence. 

Checking on the marriage licence index 1747-1790, they are recorded as
H75 John Harris, labourer of Potton, aged 21 & over, licence dated 11 July 1782
is to marry I16 Jane Ingyon of Potton, aged 21 & over
surety given by U1 John Underwood, gent of Potton

There are no oher entries for Ingyon in the on PR, so the IGI birth in 1756 is ficticious, Other likely names may be are Onion, Onyon ? Also the Harris names in baptisms stop at 1716 & resume in 1782.

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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 April 08 20:50 BST (UK) »
hello john;
thanks so much for looking this up for me, it was more than i hoped for despite being what you might call a positive negative!! i always thought ingyon was a strange kind of name, your suggestion that it could be onion or onyon seems a good one. i think i'll have to leave this branch of the family until i can get to the r.o. myself, looks like i'll have to see if they have any settlement certificates for john and jane as they wern't baptised in potton and take it from there.
once again, many thanks,
kind regards,
linda
NORTHANTS -hiams, garrood, bland, smith, richardson, stanion/stanyon, roddis, brown,eales,gibbons, harris, muddiman, longworth, wyatt, rogers, wilcox, inwood, blakeman, blackerby, gardner, wells
BUCKS - hiams/hyams
SUFFOLK - garrood
STAFFS and IRELAND - connor
LEICS - sharp
BEDS - bland, harris
ESSEX -faint
MIDDLESEX - inwood, travers, miller
HERTS - faint, harvey, pamphilon
HAMPSHIRE - suett, vine
W.YORKS - summers

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Re: baptisms look-up in potton please- harris and ingyon
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 13:21 BST (UK) »
With such an unusual name, it's often helpful to plug it into Ancestry's global search.

I did that, and the 1841 shows just three Ingyons, a single family, all in Great Staughton, Hunts: Robert aged 60, a wheelwright; his wife (assumedly) Elizabeth aged 50, and Lawrence aged 15, all born in county. Lawrence is still there in 1891, also a wheelwright.

Successive census returns show the family spreading out into Northamptonshire - Kimbolton, Irthlingborough, etc - as well. But there are only ever 13 of them, if the name is typed exactly. There are doubtless umpteen variations and mistranscriptions - but hard to know which to use!

So I would lay a bet that Great Staughton and the surrounding parishes would be a good place to start looking for Jane. Not many miles from Potton, as the crow flies - about 12 miles, I would say.

Many of the Hunts parish records aren't available other than at the records office - and Great Staughton doesn't appear in Hugh Wallis's list of batch numbers for Huntingdon, so it may be one of the parishes that has never been filmed. But as I have just discovered, the records office does offer a research service at reasonable cost.

You can email them on county.records.hunts@cambridgeshire.gov.uk

Hope this helps!

Wendy

PS A Google search just on the name brings up lots of fascinating info!
Willson & Pell in Faversham, Egerton, Folkestone in Kent
Cornhill in Kent, Devon and Wokingham, Berks
Cadmans & Kings in Isleham, Cambs
Swan, Gregory, Smith & Mingay in the Burrough Green/Westley area of Cambs
Armstrong & Chandler in Bedford
Abbott/Abbit in Witham, Essex
Davies/Davis in Islington & Hackney