Surname intrests in The Lye area

[linell]

Hi Bryn, gosh sounds like a lot of Inter-Marrying there between Cousins!  I know that living in such small communities, a lot of them did Marry into each other's families, will have a look for the elusive Aunty Tet and Fred etc etc.

Linell.

[linell]

Do you know when Tet and Fred were born Bryn?

Linell.

[Bryn Meurig]

Good Evening, Linnell!

Birth dates for Tet and Zuba? Not really a clue!!

However, my aunt, born 1924, wrote a wonderful piece some years ago, describing her childhood - riveting stuff, tear jerking, too! In that, she describes visiting Zuba, and aunt was sent into the garden whilst the adults stayed indoors drinking homemade parsnip wine! Thus, I guess Zuba was grown up and married. Likewise Tet.

I think they were my grandfather's generation, born around the turn of the century, perhaps? My grandfather regularly spent time with them (at a pub on Lye Cross!), so I would guess they were his paternal (George)cousins, rather than maternal (Caroline).

From the information you gave me this week, assuming the family in the 1881 census were the same you found in 1871, 1861 and 1851, perhaps Tet and Zuba were the daughters of George's siblings?

I noticed a William Aston of the right age in the 1881 census, living at the High Street grocer's shop in Kingswinford, but Tet and Zuba aren't among his children. Maybe they are children of Thomas, Mary or Richard?

Regards,

Bryn Meurig.

[linell]

Hi Bryn, I think the family above are Richard's children.  Richard born about 1859 brother of George H.

Richard Aston Married Azubah Homer Christ Church Lye 1887

1891 Bromley Street Lye
Sarah Homer HD Wid 65 Grocer All born Lye
(Hannah on Image, think it should b Azubah) Aston DA M 30
Richard Aston Son In Law 31 Spade Tee Turner
Harriet M. Granddaughter 1

1901 Bromley Street Lye
Richard Aston HD Grocer 40
Azubah Wife 39
Harriet M DA 11
Edith B DA 9
Frederick T.E. Son 7
Esther Z DA 1
Sarah Homer Mother In Law 75
Alice Aston Niece 5
Isabella Timmins Sevant 14 born Tunstall Staffs.  All others born Lye


So Ok I think Harriet is Tet, Esther is Esther Zilliah or Zibiah.  Frederick is obviously Uncle Fred and Zuba must be one of the sisters, could be a Nick Name or Second Name??

[linell]

I found Azubah in Upper Lye Waste with her Parents in 1861:-

Frederick Homer Head 37 (Note this is where the Frederick name comes from)
Sarah Homer Wife 35
Sarah DA 13
Frederick Son 7
Zilliah DA 11
Azubah DA 4 months

Hope this helps, they do sound an interesting family.

Linell.

[MaryEllen_G]

My chance line is not exactly this Chance line but I am from a Peter Chance born 1668 in Lye Line.

My earliest Chance/Skelding family:
Family Group Record

Husband Benjamin CHANCE
Born Place 1784 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Married Place 1 Aug 1809 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Husband's mother Sarah

Wife Sarah TAYLOR
Born Place 1788 Lye, Worcestershire, England

Children
1 F Catherine CHANCE
Christened Place 22 Jan 1809 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Spouse William SKELDING
Married Place
2 F Sarah CHANCE
Christened Place 6 May 1809 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
3 F Elizabeth CHANCE
Christened Place 21 Mar 1812 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 11 Apr 1814
4 M Stephen CHANCE
Christened Place 19 Jun 1814 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
5 M Jeremiah CHANCE
Christened Place 21 Jan 1816 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 29 Oct 1820
6 M Benjamin CHANCE
Christened Place 15 Feb 1818 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
7 F Hannah CHANCE
Christened Place 15 Jul 1821 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 19 Oct 1822
8 M Eli CHANCE
Christened Place 1 Jun 1823 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Died Place 1845
Buried Place 19 Oct
9 F Lydia CHANCE
Christened Place 3 Jul 1825 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
10 M Jesse CHANCE
Christened Place 29 Jul 1827 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 6 Mar 1828
11 Feb

[thewoolly]

<The set of books mentioned are authored by Pat Dunn who has written three so far in a series entitled 'Britain in Old Photographs - Lye and Wollescote', the same as a 'Second Selection' and the latest as the 'Third Collection', the first was written in conjunction with the late Denys Books. They appear quite often on ebay and in online booksellers catalogues. Bill Pardoe and his father, the photographer William Pardoe, are mentioned in various places in these books.>

Hi Arlen, I didn't mean the 'Britain in Old Photographs' Series, Bill Pardoe has written at least three books in his own right, I have read them, your local Library can obtain them for you.  HTH from linell.

Hello Linell. I'm trying to trace my ancestors. My surname is Wooldridge. Any help would be great. Many thanks, Paul

[thewoolly]

Hi Linell, you certainly get me thinking about things.  Myra was either born on Waste Bank (her parents were there in 1861, 4 years before her birth) or close by (they are in Bromley Street in 1871).  The photo would have been taken, I think, in the early 1900s when William had changed his profession from clay miner (hard but a regular income) to photographer (better working conditions but no guaranteed income) and they were living in Vicarage Road, Lye.

As to the origins of the surname Pardoe, you are probably close - though I suspect it was the Lorraine glassmakers rather than those from Hungary that provided the rootstock for the line. An interesting article here:

 http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/e/n/Barry-M-Henzell/FILE/0004page.html

I have two lines of Homers, Grandmother Myra was a direct line, her father was Frederick 1824 and her grandfather was John 1794. An aunt on my mothers side married a Homer - John Tye Forrest Homer 1879 whose father and grandfather were Apollos 1832 and Jesse 1797, from Cradley.  Incidently I also have a Sidaway - Aunt Floss married Arthur Sidaway 1896 in 1921.

I think the Yardley connection is too far back for certainty but the Wooldridges and Pardoes were quite common in the Waste.  Betty, mentioned before marrying Jospeh Pardoe, lived close to him only a few pages separated in the 1841 census just before they married.  Neighbours again!

Good luck with your researches

Arlen

Hi. I notice you have Wooldridge's in your post. I'm trying to trace my ancestors and thet are Wooldridge's. Any help would be great. Many thanks, Paul

[thewoolly]

My chance line is not exactly this Chance line but I am from a Peter Chance born 1668 in Lye Line.

My earliest Chance/Skelding family:
Family Group Record

Husband Benjamin CHANCE
Born Place 1784 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Married Place 1 Aug 1809 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Husband's mother Sarah

Wife Sarah TAYLOR
Born Place 1788 Lye, Worcestershire, England

Children
1 F Catherine CHANCE
Christened Place 22 Jan 1809 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Spouse William SKELDING
Married Place
2 F Sarah CHANCE
Christened Place 6 May 1809 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
3 F Elizabeth CHANCE
Christened Place 21 Mar 1812 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 11 Apr 1814
4 M Stephen CHANCE
Christened Place 19 Jun 1814 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
5 M Jeremiah CHANCE
Christened Place 21 Jan 1816 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 29 Oct 1820
6 M Benjamin CHANCE
Christened Place 15 Feb 1818 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
7 F Hannah CHANCE
Christened Place 15 Jul 1821 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 19 Oct 1822
8 M Eli CHANCE
Christened Place 1 Jun 1823 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Died Place 1845
Buried Place 19 Oct
9 F Lydia CHANCE
Christened Place 3 Jul 1825 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
10 M Jesse CHANCE
Christened Place 29 Jul 1827 Oldswinford, Worcestershire, England
Buried Place 6 Mar 1828
11 Feb

Hi. I have a Mary Ann Chance in my family. She was born in 1843 and died in 1908. She married my relative, Joseph Wooldridge, born 1838, died 1891. Both from Oldswinford. Could she be from your branch?
Many thanks, Paul