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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 21:47 BST (UK) »
Her maiden name was Ellis, that's true (well as far as I can tell),  at least it's on a birth "unnamed baby Bowman" which is John Wm. Bowman in Fenelon Falls and on Jane Francis Bowman & Mary Eliza Bowman's marriages.

I've been trying to follow that John Ellis all day, but can't find anything to connect him. 

Thanks for joining in Agadowey, she has put on a census or two born in England and born in Ontario, so I've no idea.

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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 22:02 BST (UK) »
Don't forget that the information on the death certificate was the information supplied by the informant who may or may not have known the true facts.
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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 22:09 BST (UK) »
You're absolutly correct Agadowey, and since it was a granddaughter, I wonder how much she really knew  ;D

Now.....

I have found a death for a Edward Ellis in Fenelon Falls, born in Ireland c1825, but his doctor is A. Wilson, who I am assuming is Dr. Archibald Wilson, Sophia's son--in-law, the death is in 1884.  Am I stretching to much there????  :-\

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 22:20 BST (UK) »
According to that death certificate for Sophia, which I've no idea how accurate, but if it is, it lists Sophia's mother as Ann, there is a death for an Ann Ellis in Fenelon Falls in 1903, 95 years old, born c1808 in Ireland.

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 22:43 BST (UK) »
Yes I saw that Edward yesterday on the 1881..born Ireland....but in his home is also a John Ellis Lumber Merchant  born England...but this John says....born 1841...Now is this the same fellow... creative aging or creative census taking?
 ;D One never knows but my grandfather was many years out on the 1881...
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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 22:50 BST (UK) »
Also meant to add, they didn't usually have an aweful lot of doctors in small towns back in those days,  and I don't know the size of the place at the time...
but I'm pretty sure even if there were multiple, you are safe to assume that there weren't two Dr. A Wilsons serving the community

Here is a John on the 1852,  born in 1844 but says Ireland...I'd giggle but not sure that it's funny...
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/SplitView.jsp?id=21845
( does this happen to you a lot or what?)


Hve you tracked this Sophia down to see if dates are all off?
http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/census52/SplitView.jsp?id=24564
 
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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 23:12 BST (UK) »
Here is the death for "Jane Frances Maynard". Is she one of yours? Her parents were Benjamin Bowman and Sophia Ellis.

Jane Frances Maynard
Death Date: 26 Dec 1929
Age: 69 years 5 months
Place of Death: C'Ford
Birth 09 Jul 1860
Birthplace: Inkerman Ont.
Father: Benjamin Bowman
Mother: Sophia Ellis
Marital Status: Married
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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 23:34 BST (UK) »
If she is your's, here is her marriage.

John MAYNARD
25
watch maker,
Canada, Fenelon Falls,
s/o Joseph & Jane MAYNARD,

married

Janet Frances BOWMAN,
19,
Canada, Fenelon Falls,
d/o Benjamin BOWMAN & Sophia ELLIS,
witn: Mrs J. HASTIE & Jessie BROWN, both of Lindsay,
19 Dec 1878 at Lindsay

Also, just a thought...  have you written to the cemetery in Fenelon Falls, to see if there is a Benjamin Bowman buried there? I don't see him listed, but then maybe they aren't finished transcribing.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cancemet/ON/ONF14965/



Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 23:47 BST (UK) »
These are the only 2 deaths I could see for a Benjamin Bowman. The years don't exactly match, but might be worth checking.

Benjamin Bowman
Death Date: 19 Jul 1900
Age: 68 years
Place of Death: Colchester North, Essex, Ontario
Approx Birth Year  1832
Birthplace: Michigan.
Marital Status: Married

Benjamin Bowman
Death Date: 07 Apr 1907
Age: 72 years
Place of Death: Melancthon, Dufferin, Ontario, Canada
Approx Birth Year  1835
Birthplace: Canada.
Marital Status: Married

This last one looks like a good possibility.

Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie