Author Topic: 1901 Census Help Please  (Read 13978 times)

Offline polarbear

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,369
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 19:41 BST (UK) »
Karen,

Do you know where Sophia was buried? Have you tried contacting the cemetery to inquire whether Benjamin was buried there also?

Polarbear
We search for information but it is up to the thread owner to verify that it is correct.

British Census copyright The National Archives; Canadian Census copyright Library and Archives Canada

Offline KarenM

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 4,761
  • My Grandpa Stanley has the hanky in his pocket
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 19:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks polarbear for you help!!

Sophia is bured in Ingersoll, she has no headstone, just her name is in the book and there is no mention of Benjamin.   :(  Her daughter Alice Maud and her family are buried in the same cemetery.

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

Offline lilybell

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 889
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 20:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Karen,

You may already have this copy of Sophia's death Registration but in case you don't

Sophia Bowman

Date of Death; 2 July,1927
Place of Death: Thames St. Ingersoll
Sex: F
Age: 94
Birthplace: England
Date of Birth: 9 July 1833
Race: English
Occupation: retired
Length of residence: 10 years at place of death
Length of residence in Canada: all her life in Ontario
Father: Ellis ?
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother: Ann Kell
Mother's Birthplace: England
Informant: Mrs George Mason
Informant's address: Ingersoll
Relation to deceased: Granddaughter
Place of Burial: Ingersoll Rural Cemetery
Date of Burial: 4 July 1927
Cause of Death and length of illness: Myocarditis 2 days
No Operation
No Autopsy
Date of Registration: 4 July 1927

This death registration from Oxford County Library Genealogy

Your Sophia  is proving to be a very elusive lady. Have had no luck either and I have tried every census that I can think of. Found Benjamin on 1851 census for Williamsburg Twp, Dundas age 21.

Perhaps Sophia just got missed on  1901 or maybe they were not living in Canada at the time. A lot of folks went to North Dakota and Michigan and then came back to Canada. Worth a thought.

Do you have Sophia's father's last name?

Hope you find her I'll take another look around sometimes our ancestors were not where we thought they were.

Good luck with your search.

Regards from snowy Calgary

Lilybell
Harrod Essex and Kent England
McCrimmon Invernesshire  Scotland

Offline J.J.

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,943
  • Census Crown © www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 20:51 BST (UK) »
Four households make an unusual amount of no shows from one family!  :-\


Benjamin & Sophia Bowman
Their son John  William Bowman
(and it seems Mary Heffernan, as his wife, or single)
Their daughter Mary Eliza and her husband Archibald Wilson & children
Their daughter Maud Alice ( aka Alice Maud ) & husband Findlay McDougall & children
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner" J.J.

Canadian  census  transcribed  data  ©2005 www.AutomatedGenealogy.com


Offline KarenM

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 4,761
  • My Grandpa Stanley has the hanky in his pocket
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 21:12 BST (UK) »
Oh Lilybell, have seen the weather out in Alberta, please keep it there as we finally have had some nice weather!!

I do have that death certificate thanks.  I have no information whatsoever on Sophia, other than the death certificate and the 1871, 61, 81 and 1911 census.  I can't find even a sibling for her, she must have had one at least, shouldn't she  :-\

JJ, I'm glad it's just not me that can't find them, I keep getting mad at them and giving up on them, but I do wish I could get something about her.

Thanks everyone for your help and confirmation that I'm not crazy in not being able to find her!!  ;D

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

Offline KarenM

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 4,761
  • My Grandpa Stanley has the hanky in his pocket
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 21:18 BST (UK) »
Age: 94
Birthplace: England
Date of Birth: 9 July 1833
Race: English
Occupation: retired
Length of residence: 10 years at place of death
Length of residence in Canada: all her life in Ontario


Lilybell

See what I mean, how can she spend "all her life" in Ontario, if she was born in England  :-\

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!

Offline lilybell

  • RootsChat Veteran
  • *****
  • Posts: 889
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 21:24 BST (UK) »

Hi Karen,

If we only had a maiden name for Sophia it would make things so much easier.

Don't give  up she has to be somewhere. I like a good mystery.

Warmer weather is on the way, thank goodness. I've had enough this snow.

Lilybell

 :) :) :) :)
Harrod Essex and Kent England
McCrimmon Invernesshire  Scotland

Offline aghadowey

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 51,370
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 21:25 BST (UK) »
From the death certificate it looks like she was born in Ontario but parents born in England. 'Race: English' merely means she was of English descent.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

Offline J.J.

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,943
  • Census Crown © www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: 1901 Census Help Please
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 22 April 08 21:28 BST (UK) »
Sophia's last name was Ellis...

aghadowey... :D
I assume Karen found Sophia down as born England on a census or two...

Karen, had you already looked at the fellow in Fenelon Falls named Ellis that I gave you earlier in this query? He was born England and is down as immigrated in 1835....so was thinking may be a sibling....He is also a lumberman as are a few others in your familes....

If she immigrated as a wee infant, maybe she didn't remember either way...
"We search for information, but the burden of proof is always with the thread owner" J.J.

Canadian  census  transcribed  data  ©2005 www.AutomatedGenealogy.com