Josiah PRATER 1823-1855 Crantock

[junket]

  Whoopee, Kris, I just knew you'd sort it !!  Thank you.

I'm going to put my Bullocks aside and spend some time on these neglected Praters and placate them today.  ( Until I get the Prater headache ).

Now I think you said this line ended up in Australia ?
( I will have to go back and refresh ).

The Prout line you put me onto did as well.

It seems, I'm going to be searching down under soon, Kris.  I will need much guidance soon.  New territory for me. 

junket ( who just loves this site so much )

PS .... If my records are correct, the Mary that died, was a daughter of  the family with 2 Thomas sons .........................

[toni*]

i still can't find that article   

[junket]

     Maybe, I now know why I get confused sometimes,  ...... whilst reading back on this thread, someone has reversed their car, whilst parking in the village hall car park across from our house, in the hedge.  No one was hurt, but someone got stuck inside the car, as the hedge wedged the passenger car door shut.  This old lady had to be 'rescued' and then a recovery truck, had to be called to rescue car and take it away.  This event has been relayed to me by OH., as I am trying to work on the Praters.

What I think is correct is ............................

Mary Prater, bapt 17 11 1770, Crantock, dau of Francis and Jane ( Tippett ), gave birth to a base child Samuel, bapt. 10 6 1787, Crantock.

Samuel m Elizabeth Chenoweth, 20 4 1811, Cubert.
children born to them were .....
Samuel 10 1 1813
John 17 4 1714
Nathaniel 19 11 1811
he married Susan Herwood ( Henwood ?), 6 4 1847, Cubert
Thomas 1 3 1818
William 13 2 1820
Joseph 11 8 1822
he married Mary Mark, 1846 St Columb District. Emigrated to South Australia.
Martha Nicholls Prater 2 5 1824, she was buried 9 5 1824.

Elizabeth nee chenoweth, died and was buried 18 3 1826.

Samuel married again, to Elizabeth trathen, 3 2 1827, Newlyn East.

junket

[krisesjoint]

Second wife Catherine - not Elizabeth

Nathaniel 19 11 1815 not 1811 = Susan HENWOOD Jun 1847 9 81

Here is another marriage

John PRATER otp Bachelor = Fanny NANCARROW otp spinster 1 Jan 1842 Newlyn East both signed witnesses Harriet Anna Wood and Henry stephens - Mar 1842 St Col 9 91

Banns read between John PRATER otp Bachelor and Fanny NANCARROW otp Spinster 21, 28 Nov and 5 Dec 1842

Presuming it is this John as he is in Census with a wife Frances born Newlyn

Joseph was in SA by 1852. I do not see him in 1851. He had at least 2 children with him when he arrived. I don't see the baptisms in Cubert or Colan. Dau def born St Col district , son William Mark (From SA Records) - unsure as none reg with a middle name.

Kris 

But where is our Maniac - We have well and truly got sidetracked here. He does not appear in the census - we seem have accounted for both 15 year olds in 1841 - One went to Middlesex the other Australia. In 1851 only the one in middlesex. This poor chap is not even showing up by initials

[junket]

What exactly, was a maniac, in those days ?

OH., says, someone like me, ... so would that be someone, in their own little world ? 

junket

[junket]

In 1841, there is a Josiah Prater, married aged 25, in Perranzabuloe....
Piece: HO107/150/11 Place: Pydar -Cornwall Enumeration District: 24
Civil Parish: Perranzabuloe Ecclesiastical Parish: -
Folio: 104 Page: 6
Address: Hendra ....... who is he ?

Age is dodgey, given age of first child, but if we can eliminate this Josiah ......

junket.

[junket]

Looking at Josiah Snr and his family, in 1841, at home with him, are the following children..
Christian
William
Elizabeth.

Missing are ...
 
Hannah ....  she is with amelia Johns, in Churchtown, Crantock ?   

Thomas .... he is with solomon Butson, churchtown, Crantock ?

Richard Jenkin ... working for Nicholls, St Col Minor ?

Andrew .... did he survive infancy ?

Josiah .... if we find Andrew are the 2 brothers together ?

junket

[krisesjoint]

Hi junket,

I don't know who that older Josiah is - that family seem to disappear too but he is much too old to be the one we are after. I have no idea what would have someone classified as a maniac, which is why I am so curious. I note Joseph Yelland's burial lists him as of Lunatic Asylum Bodmin, this lists Josiah as of nowhere else, yet no sign of him in any census, just (a maniac) When I had the two 15 year olds I thought one must be him but realising one was apprenticed to a carpenter it does seem to fit with the Middlesex man although age is out.

Pity you are not in Cornwall to find out if he was in the asylum or if there was anything in the newspaper if he had just done something to be declared a maniac. Idiot, Imbecile etc but I have never come upon a maniac. I wondered if it may have been something like taking his own life - those people were deemed insane but would they be considered a maniac............Don't know about Andrew. I will look............Kris 

[junket]

  Morning Kris.

I too wish I was in Cornwall.
What I would like to do is win the lottery and pay someone to come to Truro and do the 'looking' for me, whilst I told them what I needed to know ........... .

Wouldn't it be nice, for him, if he were a mechanic, not a maniac.. lol. 

Goodnight. catch you tomorrow.

junket