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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 19:06 BST (UK) »
Iain,
For what it's worth, the only Robert PORTER baptism that the IGI throws up for the years 1770-1780 in the whole of Cambridgeshire is in Ely St Mary's (about 6 miles from Littleport).  The parents are a Joshua and Elizabeth PORTER. 
But you've probably already dismissed this individual as not your man...
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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #10 on: Friday 06 June 08 13:53 BST (UK) »
Keith.

It's difficult to know how to bridge the gap between the truth and a maybe,
that's the frustrating part of this hobbey of ours.
When you looked at the Littleport rgisters, were they the originals or transcriptions ????

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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 June 08 14:48 BST (UK) »
Iain,
They were transcriptions, though they do have microfilms of some, plus the actual original registers to leaf through for the most recent records in some cases.  Not sure if they have the room for both originals and transcriptions of the very same records,
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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 June 08 14:52 BST (UK) »
Keith,

Thanks.
That's what i thought.


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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 June 08 16:30 BST (UK) »
Can we go back to basics here?

Which Robert Porter was he in 1851, as I can't see one born 1773? Just one aged 55 born Littleport. Equally if you have located him in 1851 he can't be the one buried in 1826! The Burial Index on the Cambs FHS site at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/BurialIndex/index.html
gives the age of the Robert Porter buried in 1826 as 63. Which would make his birth c1763, not 1773. But burial ages are even more unreliable than census ages!

Are you mixing and matching two Robert Porters?
1. age 55 in 1851 born Littleport
2. Buried 1826 age 63 birthplace unknown

Or is there a third Robert Porter age 78 born Littleport in 1851 who I haven't found?

Can you clarify?

David
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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 June 08 17:30 BST (UK) »
David,
Nothing like a third pair of eyes working on this, so perhaps I'll have a different remit next time I go to the CCRO.  Except that I'm pretty sure that the only PORTER family I found in Littleport was the one I listed earlier in this thread - and the spread of that generation covers either 1763 or 1773, no sign of Robert still...
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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 June 08 18:01 BST (UK) »
I just found Iain's earlier thread at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,297459.msg1798643.html#msg1798643 where Robert Porter married Ann Tossel/Topal in 1791. Ann's presumed first husband was born in 1766, so Robert may have been born closer to 1763, which would tie him in with the 1826 burial. But as far as I can see there's nothing that says that Robert who was buried in 1826 was born in Littleport.

Still can't work out the references to 1851 though

David
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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 June 08 18:48 BST (UK) »
Perhaps, then, we should be looking somewhere other than Littleport for that birth/baptism for him...
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Re: Littleport - Baptism
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 June 08 13:07 BST (UK) »
David, Keith.

It is the Robert PORTER who died in 1826 aged 63.
keith.

i just had a look at my records again and robert PORTERS dob wasn't from the census.
the Littleport society gave me the info presumably counting back from age at death on his burial entry in 1826.


When i received the gedcom file from the littleport society i didn't check that the maths was correct, but the dob would be 1763, according to the littleport society he was buried in Littleport.
as you have stated with the linked thread he married an Ann Topal, the surname Topal does not exist.
I need really to have sight of the original marriage entry so i can see whether Topal could be Tossel/Tossal as i suspect.

I suppose Robert Porter must have been born elsewhere as Keith could not find the baptism even though i made it harder for him by giving him the wrong date................... ignore the 1851 census reference as i posted the entry from work and was using info from memory which proved incorrect.

thanks
Keith & David