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Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« on: Tuesday 29 April 08 04:44 BST (UK) »
Can any one help please.
I am looking for information on the The Church Army Emigration "Lads Ladder Scheme"
My Grandfather was Trained at Hempstead Hall Training Farm - Essex, which was run by the Church Army. He was brought out to Australia Queensland  around 1925. His name was James Collins.
But I can not find any information on the scheme or Hempstead Hall at all, or what he did or where he went when he got here.

Does any body know any thing, please help.

Cheers Tracy
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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 05:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Tracy,

I am not able to help with the Essex side of things, but if you are intersted in tracing him in Australia, maybe you could post on the Australian board.(*)

You might get some useful info if you give as  many details as possible about him.

Then again, this may not be what you are looking for ;D ;D ;D



Sue



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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 06:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sue,
What I would like to know is what happen to him when he first came to Australia, Toowoomba. That was 5 years before I have info on him. And about the scheme and how it worked and why he was sent in the first place.

Thanks for you help
Tracy
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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 08:10 BST (UK) »
Yes, It sounds like you might get a start from the Queensland chatters who have some resources to guide you with the archival systems in Qld.

 Perhaps if you just retype your request and put it on Emigrants to Australia, or simply cut and copy.
that way it willl be in 2 possible  places  for help.
Sue
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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 April 08 12:25 BST (UK) »
http://www.naa.gov.au/naaresources/Publications/research_guides/guides/childmig/appendix3.htm
 - mentions the Church Army, and has a good overview of child emigration to Australia. Most likely, he would have been placed soon after arrival with a farmer in the area; the experiences of home children very much depended on who they were placed with.

http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/ - you should also see what the Queensland archives have, although it's more likely that any record of him, if it survives, will be with the people who organized his emigration.  The Church Army still exists, http://www.churcharmy.com.au/ (+ a UK site), but I don't know if they've kept any records.

Child migrants were not necessarily orphans; our Teaker (Thomas Parker) had both parents living when he was sent to Canada.  There are several possibilities: he could have come into the care of an orphanage or workhouse (one or both parents dead, or not around, or institutionalized themselves and unable to care for him), and was sent to Hempstead Hall to give him a trade. He could have been sent there to 'straighten him out' if he'd been in trouble with the law.

I'm attaching an article from the Times in 1917 which describes the farm, at the time housing a number of ex-soldiers.
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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 05:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your help and your time... its wonderful.
I have sent a email off to the church army, so heres hopeing they have something...

Cheers Tracy
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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 30 April 08 10:40 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

Qld  certificates  have a  lot of information on  them.  Have  you  obtained  his  marriage certificate?

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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 01 May 08 04:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jenn
Yes I have, and there is no info on there about that..

Thanks for you help
Tracy
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Re: Help- Child Emigration Scheme
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 01 May 08 06:45 BST (UK) »
I have heard back from the Church Army Australia, they have sent my request off to England. So heres hopeing they find something..
Tracy

Thank you so much for your help and your time... its wonderful.
I have sent a email off to the church army, so heres hopeing they have something...

Cheers Tracy
Collins- Australia
Collins - Staffordshire
Collins - Wales
Fairbanks - Staffordshire & Australia
Rowley - Staffordshire
Bunce
Harvey
Warrilow - Staffordshire
Harding