Census look-up pls: 1861 & 71 - McWILLIAM

[julied]

Hi there

Would some be kind enough to do a census look-up for me please in 1861 and 71.  I'm looking for an Andrew McWilliam b c1787 Wigtownshire. 

In the 1841 census, address Blair Street,  Portpatrick, he's listed as a 'blind seaman' born Wigtownshire. 
In the 1851 census, address 896 Blair St, Portpatrick, he's listed as a 'pauper, ag lab, blind, born Portpatrick'.  His wife's name was Agnes, born in Ireland, she died in 1874. 

I'm trying to narrow down when he died as I can't find a death record for him.
Cheers
Julie

[lindy-lou]

 hi julie

1861 census

civil parish of portpatrick
blair st

agnes, age 75, b ireland, head, sewer
william mcwilliam, grandson, age 17, b dundonald ayrshire, rail labourer

they are the only 2 mentioned.

lindy-lou

[lindy-lou]

hi again
had a look for Andrews death between 1851/61 census, no results, i'm new at this but could be possible that Andrew died before 1855, maybe somebody could look at parish records for a death entry.
lindy-lou

[julied]

Hi lindy-lou, thank you  so much for this.   

This has to be them as the 1851 census also has the grandson William living with them. 

Correct me if I'm wong but if Andrew was dead by 1861 then wouldn't Agnes be listed as a widow in the census?  Could I trouble you again please to see if  Andrew is maybe listed at a different address on the census night.   

Thanks again, I really appreciate it.

Cheers
Julie 

[lindy-lou]

hi

re Agnes 1861 census....had another look she is listed as "head"

i'm off out just now but i'll try again later to hopefully find Andrew....1861 census has a family of McWilliam with an Andrew age 77 birth year 1784 but he is listed as "son"?

linda

[lindy-lou]

hi julie

have you got Andrews parents names?
looking at SP i can only find 1 birth in the time frame for Andrew.....born 26 Sep 1784, Portpatrick...parents names John McWilliam & Mary Adair....IGI have same date, but that is submitted entry.
still searching to find Andrews death, no luck so far.....could he have died outwith Scotland?

linda

[lindy-lou]

hi again
thought i had a death for Andrew in Portpatrick,1860, initial search on SP didn't show age, got the cert anyway but alas fella was only 67, fathers name i think says hugh, registered by son Andrew.....could it be a rellie of yours? if so if you want to PM with your email addy i'll gladly forward.

linda

[julied]

Hi linda, thanks so much for taking the trouble to do all this.

Unfortunately I don't have a definate birth year for Andrew.  I'm only going on the census records although they vary which is a bugger.  1841 has him born 1791, 1851 has him born 1787 
I also don't have Andrew's parents names which doesn't help. 

Cheers
Julie

[lindy-lou]

hi
search on SP 1855-1890 deaths

1859....age not entered, Wigtown
1862....       "                 , Leswalt
 
the only other 1 is 1881 but fella age given as 83, Stoneykirk, which is probably too young for your Andrew.

1861 census....reg district Leswalt, address "allandoo"
Andrew McWilliam, 77 c1784, Leswalt son??
Barbra                   11                  "      dau
Clenentina              8                   "        "
Elizabeth               24                  "         "
Jane                      16                   "        "
Janet                     13                  "         "
Jenet                     52             Stoneykirk, wife
Peter                     52             Leswalt, head, farmer 120 acres
William                  20                 "         son