1858 "ship "John and Lucy" to Aust

[terra]

Thank you Andy - starting to question my searching abilities.  Looked at the complete passenger list and there were only 11 passengers with names commencing with "C" and no CROWE.   Thank you for pointing out the problems.

Sorry Sue for misleading you.

Terra

Edit - Andy it also brings up passengers on the "John Owens" !!!   

[andycand]

Hi Terra

Looked at the complete passenger list and there were only 11 passengers with names commencing with "C" and no CROWE

I'm puzzled, there are about 50 passengers beginning with the letter "C" including Anne Crowe. If you put in the month Dec and the year, 1858 it just brings up the John and Lucy passengers totalling 395

Andy

[terra]

Hi Terra

Looked at the complete passenger list and there were only 11 passengers with names commencing with "C" and no CROWE

I'm puzzled, there are about 50 passengers beginning with the letter "C" including Anne Crowe. If you put in the month Dec and the year, 1858 it just brings up the John and Lucy passengers totalling 395

Andy

Andy if you enter John & Lucy [without the space before the ship's  name, as you advised to leave a space] and 1858 it only brings up 99 passengers.  Try it.  I am starting to think I am going bonkers   If you leave a space it brings up 497   Sloppy transcribing.

Terra

[gennig]

Hi

If you want to know if there is anymore information on the passenger list.  You need to access the information at either the State Lib or PROV or somewhere they have the Microfiche.

I am going to the Lib tomorrow, I can check it for you.  Note as it is unassisted immigration there won't be much information.

Regards


Genni

[andycand]

Hi Terra

I think I've worked it out, there are 99 Assisted British Immigration passengers when you don't leave a space and 497 if you leave a space before the ships name. One of those passengers is Anne Crow (without an E)age 21 but I've been looking at the Unassisted Inward Passengers that shows 395 passengers including an Anne Crowe (with an E on the surname)age 22 . It looks she was carrying both Assisted & Unassisted passengers and the Unassisted passengers have been included on both databases. What a mess.

Andy

[terra]

Andy  thank goodness you have worked it out. I was really starting to think I was losing it   I agree...what a mess.  I have noticed on a couple of other occasions what seemed to be the same people listed on both Assisted and Unassisted Passenger lists.

I guess the only answer is to have someone like Gennig who is kind enough to do lookups for people.

Cheers
Terra

[gennig]

Hi

I'll check both lists out.
Note: Refs for Ann are
Assisted - Book 13 Page 271
Unassisted - Port B Fiche 155 Page: 002

Reason she is maybe on both lists, she may have paid her own way out and then was contracted by someone in Aus.
Will know more when I see the lists.

Regards


Genni

[andycand]

Hi

As a matter of interest, it looks like Bendigo Library might also have the Fiche. According to the catelogue they have the Inward Passenger lists on 376 microfiche. This seems too many to just be the indexes.  In fact, looking at the catelogue they have quite a collection of Passenger Lists.

Andy

[sarra]

Well I was one of those people who thought I was going mad too.

Andy,
Thanks for solving the mystery.

Sue,

I have just looked at the manifest for the John & Lucy, as I said in my earlier post.
This is the unassisted one. Port B  Fiche 155  Page 002.


Anne Crowe....age 22 single...servant, nationality....Irish.

If you can access the Assisted one it's likely to give you more information.

The John & Lucy..sailed from Liverpool, August 24, 1858, arrived Melbourne December 15,1858.

Hope this helps.

Sarra