Completed - Look up reguest Census for MILLER family - Bethnal Green area

[Sturdy]

I have reached the point of having to look at another branch of the family tree, being the MILLER family. I am looking for any assistance to find the MILLER on the census records around Bethnal Green / Hackney / Shoreditch consisting of a George / Emma and William MILLER.

My g/g/g/grand-father William Henry MILLER was said to have been born in Hackney Rd, Bethnal Green  in 1851 with his parents being George and Emma MILLER. In 1873 he married an Ellen PARSONSON in Shoreditch and within a few weeks sailed to NZ on board the St Leonards.

I am trying to locate on either the 1851 / 1861 / 1871 any MILLER family consisting of father George / mother Emma and at least one son called William. He would have been 0-1 in 1851, 10 years old in 1861 and 20 around the time of the 1871 census. He was a builder / carpenter by trade which may have been a family trade. Any information on potentail family groups matching these names would be greatly appreciated.

Regards Sturdy

[Tati]

Hi Sturdy,

How do you like these?

1851
HO107/1539 445 22
Bethnal Green, Middlesex
19 Bath Street
George Miller, head, 22, Ornamental Carver, b. Middlesex Shoreditch
Emma, wife, 24, b. Middlesex St Lukes
William H, son, 2 mo, b. Middlesex Bethnal Green

 

[Tati]

This seems to be the same family

1861
RG9/245 105 1
Shoreditch St Leonard
19 Westmorland St
George Miller, head, 32, Carver & Gilder, b. Mddx Shoreditch
Emma, wife, 35, b. Surrey Lambeth
William, son, 10, scholar, b. Middlesex Bethnal Green
Emma, dau, 8, scholar, b. Shoreditch
George, son, 6, scholar, b. do.
John, son, 3?, b. do.
Robert, son, 9 mo, b. do.

[Tati]

... and 1871
RG10/566 113 5
Mile End Old Town
59 Devonshire St
George Miller, head, 42, Wood Carver, b. Shoreditch
Emma, wife, 45, b. Holborn
William H, son, unm, 20, Carpenter, b. Bethnal Green
Emma, dau, 18, Domestic work, b. do.
George, son, 16, Painter?, b. Shoreditch
John, son, 13, scholar, b. do.
Robert, son, 11, scholar, b. do.
Rebecca, dau, 9, scholar, b. do.
Henry M, son, 7, scholar, b. Mile End
Alfred, son, 5, scholar, b. do.
Richard J?, son, 3, scholar, b. do.

[Bryant]

And looking at the options for 1841.........

this family has a good chance of being yours........George moving back to Westmorland Street sometime between 1851-1861 ?

1841
WESTMORLAND STREET, ST LEONARDS SHOREDITCH, LONDON, MIDDX
HENRY MILLER   40   BUILDER    YES
MARY         "       40                    YES
MARY         "       13                    YES
GEORGE    "        11                    YES
ROBERT     "        9                      YES
JOHN         "        7                      YES
CHARLOTTE "      4                       YES (? CHARLOTTE B.8 APRIL 1837....C. 28 APR 1837....parents HENRY MARSDEN MILLER & MARY ANN.....ST LEONARDS, SHOREDITCH)
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Events at St Leonards, Shoreditch
*JANE ROGBY MILLER    C. 27 OCT 1839 AGED 1........H.M.M & MARY
*REBECCA MILLER  B. 16 NOV 1841....C. 8 DEC 1841....H.M.M & MARY
*GEORGE JAMES MILLER....C.14 FEB 1841 aged 1.......HENRY & MARY
*NANCY ROGBY MILLER B. 3 JAN 1844....C. 23 JAN 1844....H.M.M & MARY

1852 LONDON DIRECTORY
HENRY MARSDEN MILLER.......BUILDER.........ROSE COTTAGE, KINGSLAND BASIN

Bryant

[Sturdy]

Again thank you Tati and Bryant for the wealth of information in such a short time. Your help in invaluable to us all.

I am convinced we have the right MILLER family with George as the head in 1851/61/71. I am also reasonably happy with Henry MILLER of Westmoreland St as possibly being his father but the additional children have thrown me (Nancy etc) as they are not on the 1841 census. I had picked up on Henry Marsden in earlier research but now I am not sure if he is separate identity from the Henry in Westmoreland St or they are one in the same family?.

Are you able to tell me if Henry and Mary from Westmoreland st appear in the 1851 census and is there a separate entry for a Henry Marsden MILLER and Mary with children - Nancy, Jane etc. I think we are very close but I am not sure if it is one in the same family. Any thoughts or is there something I have missed?

Many thanks from Australia - Sturdy

[Tati]

Here they are 

1851
HO107/1504 547 10
Hackney, Middlesex
1 Rose Cottage
Henry M Miller, head, 51, Builder, b. Newcastle
Mary, wife, 51, b. Cambridge Wisbeach
Mary A, dau, unm, 24, b. do.
Robert, son, unm, 20, Builder with Father, b. Mddx Shoreditch
John, son, 15, b. do.
Charlott, dau, 13, 'scholler', b. do.
Rebeckah, dau, 9, 'scholer', b. do.
Nancy R, dau, 6, 'scholer', b. do.

and 1861
RG9/156 143 1
Hackney St John
Kingsland Road - Rose Cottage
H M Miller, head, 62, Carpenter, b. Durham Gateshead
Mary, wife, 62, b. Cambridge Wisbeach
John, son, unm, 26, House Painter, b. Mddx Shoreditch
R, dau, 20, b. do.
N R, dau, 16, b. do.

[Sturdy]

If there was an award I could nominate you and Bryant for I would! What you assist people with is of tremendous value to those, like me, who do not have ready access to many of the records and the results mean a lot to the respective families. Many thanks.

[Tati]

We're very happy to help, Sturdy

Possible death for Henry:
Henry Marsden Miller
Dec 1861 Hackney 1b 211

and indeed Mary is shown as widowed in 1871:
RG10/329 4 1
Hackney
1a ?Swembow? Ter
Mary Miller, head, wid, 73, Retired Builder's wife, b. Cambridgeshire Wisbeach
John, son, unm, 36, Retired Builder, b. Mddx Shoreditch
Rebecca, dau, unm, 29, b. do.