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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:31 BST (UK) »
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Not many churches of whatever denomination can afford the cost of digitisation. I suppose the real argument is who owns the records anyway?

The state does.

Church records have to be submitted to local county archives where they are transferred on to microfilm or micro-fiche.  The church does not have to pay for this, rather the tax payer instead.
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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 12 June 08 14:37 BST (UK) »
The above post probably refers to the registration system in England?
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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 12 June 08 18:27 BST (UK) »
Seems like the opportunity to preserve the records for free has been lost unless discussions can change the original decision by the vicars before paper records degrade. Not many churches of whatever denomination can afford the cost of digitisation. I suppose the real argument is who owns the records anyway? The original church funding was by the congregation whose descendants are keen to access the records.....

Let me set the record straight.

Anguline Research Archives will digitise any parish record from any church in England, Scotland or Wales free of charge for any church who wants their registers digitised.
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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #21 on: Friday 13 June 08 14:20 BST (UK) »
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If the entry is extracted it means it is part of a parish register that has been transcribed.

Joy


But none are catholic ;)

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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #22 on: Friday 13 June 08 14:25 BST (UK) »
At the risk of sounding a numpty - am I understanding Joy & Celia correctly?  Any Catholic records [particularly Irish] that are in the IGI are from civil records?

Josey
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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #23 on: Friday 13 June 08 15:41 BST (UK) »
At the risk of sounding a numpty - am I understanding Joy & Celia correctly? Any Catholic records [particularly Irish] that are in the IGI are from civil records?

Josey
There seem to be quite a few pre-civil registration Irish church records in IGI so suspect that some were allowed to be copied/extracted.
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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #24 on: Friday 13 June 08 15:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Josey

I don't know about the Catholic records - although I doubt many would have been provided to the LDS, but just to mention - NOT all extracted records come from Parish registers - there are a few other sources including

- Bishops transcripts (very common)
- Early transcriptions by (now) eminent folks - considered most reliable

You can click on the film number for extracted entries and see the source

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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #25 on: Friday 13 June 08 16:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks for everyone's input; it's made it a lot clearer for me.

Josey
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
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Re: Definition of IGI & PAF entries on LDS site
« Reply #26 on: Friday 13 June 08 17:53 BST (UK) »
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There seem to be quite a few pre-civil registration Irish church records in IGI so suspect that some were allowed to be copied/extracted.

Josey
I will re-phrase the latter ;D I did at one time do  lot of looking up on the I.G.I Fitch for Scotland Ireland or England which are the same as you see on the net (exept the no source). A few times i was asked to look up a Birth or a marriage they were catholic, they had looked on the net in Ireland but they were not there.Would i please find them.I had never previously found people i had looked for that were catholic,but i looked anyway :) I never found it.So i came to the conclusion at the time that the Irish that are on the I.G.I were none catholics.Even now it is hard to locate catholic records.

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