1891 and possibly 1901 census look up please

[ellenbrora]

Hi Folks

This was bugging me so I've checked the marraiges on SP so we know exactly what we're looking for....

1. William McNeillis, the Oil Cake Dresser married Mary Walls @ Blythswood, Glasgow 31 Dec 1900, age 25. His parents were  John McNeillis, Chemical Work Labourer (deceased) and Mary ms Docherty. Living at that time at 6 Swan Street.

2. William McNeillis, age 20, Iron Dresser, married Christina Stephen a Power Loom Weaver 29 Dec 1900 @ Milton, Glasgow. His parents were Michael McNeillis, Coach Builder (deceased) and Mary ms Murray. Both William and Christina were at the time living at 42 Maitland Street, Glasgow.

What would you have given for the chances of two William McNeillises marrying within 2 days of each other 

Right, I'm off again to see if I can find them.  Please all feel free to beat me to it - its bugging me!!!

Cheers

Ellen.

[ellenbrora]

Right, now we're getting somewhere - but not the whole story!

William's wife Christina is at 42 Maitland (ancestry has transcribed as Mailland) Street on the 1901. she is transcibed as McNeillias.

She is head of household, age 23, a Jute Spinner, b. Carycastle (?) with

Alexandria McNeillias, daur, 2, Glasgow
Mary McNeillias, daur, 3 mos, Glasgow
plus 3 of Christinas sisters, Alexandria Stephens, 21, Catherine, 19 and Jane 17
and 2 visitors Marion Longmuir and Rose McLatchin both 18.

Got to go out for few hours, but will look back to see if anyone has found William!

Cheers

Ellen.

['Tricia]

Ha,ha so she isn't in England - that fooled me for a few seconds.

She is in Scotland and we can't check the image for her marital status - very annoying - do you have any credits?

Both William and his mum may be deceased though William is a bit young

Nice to see someone in full possession of the facts,Ellen

[KA]

First of all, many thanks for all this help.  It is all so kind of you.

Just to fill you in a bit more, I think William may have been in Northumberland in 1901.  One turns up on the census as a visitor with a mining family.  The age is wrong, but this may be him. And it would fit with other information I have found out.  ie. Christina marries again in 1905.  She states 'spinster' on this second marriage, alters her age a bit, and gives her grandparents names as her parents.  I am thinking that William deserted her, maybe a divorce followed - but maybe not.  William dies in 1916.

So, maybe another William McNeillis can be found in Scotland, maybe not.  Can his mother Mary be sighted at all?

Also, can anybody advise how I might find out about divorces during this period.  I would not have thought they were that common.

Regards

KA

['Tricia]

Is this the chap with the 'Humbles' ?

Age is  definitely 38 but it does look good apart from that.

I think they are a bit dodgy after all 

Tricia

[KA]

That's the one.
Dodgy isn't the word for it!


The 2 year old Alexina that is with Christina on the 1901 has the words 'illegitimate' on her birth cert.  And it appears William didn't stick around long after his marriage and birth of second daughter, Mary.  I suppose he could still be in Scotland, but ensuring he is unfindable, not necessarily by the census, but by his wife - but it equates to the same thing.  I get the feeling he didn't easily settle to family life!

His mother, Mary died in 1907.  On the death cert the surname is Manelis - but this is one of the many guises the McNeillis surname appears as.  She died 10 Feb 1907  at 2 Parsonage Lane, Glasgow.  This is the St Rollox area, which also has the other Mary McNeillis, who isn't mine - which just adds to the confusion.

Regards KA

[bobby66]

HI KA MY NAME IS MARGARET MANELLIS I WAS LOOKING AT SOME OLD POSTS AND FOUND YOUR POST FOR MCNELLIS FAMILY THE NAME HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS THE NAMES ARE MCNELLIS MANELLIS MANELIS MANILLIS NELLIS  CHARLES MCNELIS WENT TO SPAIN AND CHANGED HIS NAME TO CARLOS MANALUS IF YOU THINK THIS FAMILY IS PART OF YOUR FAMILY PLEASE GET IN TOUCH KIND REGARDS MARGARET

[bendywendy]

bobby66
I would like to make contact with you regarding this strange name, I have Manillis and Moneillis, looking for a woman
named Margaret Moneillis with parents Anthony Manillis and Ellen Brawman?.
Margaret married Alexander Scobie in Scotland, got some info on the Scobie, traces back to Antrim, Ireland, but it is this surname that is eluding me to tracing Margaret and her family.

bendywendy

[bobby66]

Hi thanks for mail i have been waiting for years for someone looking for manillis name, my name is margaret manellis the name has been spelt wrong for years when my great grandfather came over from ireland greenock spelt it wrong,my grandfather changed the name back to manellis its origin is spanish if  you can give me info on the manillis family that you have i will be able to fill you in with this family, i also know of the scobie family as they married a taylor who is part of my sisterinlaw family.i have the manellis family back to 1600s the spanish way is manalus the irish is mcnelistheir is twenty ways spelling this name please keep in touch kind regards margaret