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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 26 July 08 21:38 BST (UK) »
hi

Have been trying to find them in 1841 to see if any clues as to Jane's maiden name pops up ....

this is the closest family I can find .... you need to look at original to be sure but the last letters on original for surname is "***oway"

1841
Hillingdon
UXBRIDGE MOOR ....where George Whittle and Emma Alloway married  ;D
William ...oway 20 lab
Jane 20
Susannah 13 months
Mary 3 months
all born in county

the beginning of the surname could possibbly be an "A" as there is an Andrews family further down the page . Anyway the above family has been transcribed as Ferency :-\ :-\ ::)

cannot find them under Alloway/Allaway etc etc

deb

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 26 July 08 21:59 BST (UK) »
can't find a marriage yet...but here may be some of the children's birth registrations;

James John Alloway;June q 1851 Uxbridge vol 3 p 446

ummm I thought I would find more ... can't see them yet either  :-\

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 17:39 BST (UK) »
 :o

Wow! Hang on a minute, Deb! I normally get an e-mail message to say if there have been responses on any of the threads I am following. Nothing has come through though. Did not realise you were doing all this ALLOWAY research for me!!!  Thank you.  ;D

No wonder I have not been able to find the ALLOWAYs on the census. You are a real detective.  :)

Thanks for looking up some Worcestershire WHITTLEs for me. From freeBMD I know that it is a very northern name, but there is quite a busy Birmingham / Worcestershire contingent as well. In fact I am wondering if George WHITTLE born 1867 could turn out to be

Births Sep 1866 Whittle    George    King's N    6c   425

The Stratford Canal meets the Worcester and Birmingham Canal at Kings Norton. You never know, Emma might have gone gallivanting on the canal with her George before the children started to arrive!

I think all the info you have found seems to be right. I'm getting a long list now of things to look up on the originals. So many things to do!  :(

Anyway, thanks for all this. I'm really so grateful, but please don't feel you've got to carry on - unless you have got the scent of the chase and are enjoying it!

All the best for now.

Edwina

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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 18:04 BST (UK) »
Slightly off the beaten track, because we thought they never strayed from Uxbridge, but I have found a possible marriage for William ALLOWAY and Jane:

Marriages Sep 1837: ALLAWAY William,     St.Mary Magdalan Bermondsey, 4, 8.
                                  ROFFEY    Jane,    St.Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, 4,   8.

Several other marriages on that page too, though, so no way of knowing whether this pair match up, unless I get the certificate. The only other William ALLOWAY marriage was in Cookham district - not too far from Uxbridge, but no Jane listed.

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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 19:42 BST (UK) »
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Re George WHITTLE's birth Sep 1866, I think this may be a baby who died  :'( : Deaths Jun 1867: Whittle George, 0, King's N.    6c, 236.

Never mind, keep looking...
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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 20:04 BST (UK) »
Hello again, Deb,  :)

This is the 1841 address you gave me:


In 1841
Worcestershire
St Martin, Tallow Hill
Hannah WHITTLE 55
Mary 14
GEORGE 10
next door is a Martha Whittle 20
all born in county

deb


Tallow Hill, Worcester is a street that runs up eastwards from St Martin's Gate, crossing the Worcester and Birmingham Canal. I have not been there, only seen it on the map. This makes the address sound very likely. Does 1841 tell us whether people were married, widowed, unmarried? I don't think it does, does it? Pity. You never know, William might also have worked on the canal too. Bridges, wharves etc all needed maintaining...

Thanks again, Deb  :-*

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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 31 July 08 18:02 BST (UK) »
Slightly off the beaten track, because we thought they never strayed from Uxbridge, but I have found a possible marriage for William ALLOWAY and Jane:

Marriages Sep 1837: ALLAWAY William,     St.Mary Magdalan Bermondsey, 4, 8.
                                  ROFFEY    Jane,    St.Mary Magdalen Bermondsey, 4,   8.


Hi Edwina

Nice to hear from you ... I also have not been receiving replies to some threads  :-\

anyway ...going on the basis of Jane Roffey being his wife I have found this on IGI

JANE ROFFEY
06 DEC 1816 Saint Mary, Lambeth, Surrey
parents; Richard Roffey and Mary
extracted

The age seems to add up according to the 1851 census where she is 35 but she claims Uxbridge as her POB.

I cannot seem to spot them in 1861  :-\

I am also wondering why I can't find William and Jane Alloway's children's births ...maybe ordering James John Alloway's cert would help...James John Alloway;June q 1851 Uxbridge vol 3 p 446


will look further

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 31 July 08 18:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this, Deb. Will be back again when I get the chance. Must go now...
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Re: WHITTLE family fairground connection
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 31 July 08 19:05 BST (UK) »
Hi again

AT LAST!!! I have found them in 1871 ... there was quite a gap between George b 1866 and Mabel Alice b 1880 ...

1871
Uxbridge, Hillingdon
2 Canal Street
Emma WITTLE head mar 28 Boatman's wife b Hillingdon
Mary ALLOWAY dau 9 ...she nust be Mary Ann/Margaret who married Wm Grafton
Eliza ALLOWAY dau 6
George ALLOWAY 6 ( aka George Whittle)
Hannah WITTLE dau 4months
all born Hillingdon

a few houses away ... Jane Alloway widow, 60 b Uxbridge


I wonder if this is George's birth reg ...
George A Allaway
Mar q 1866
 Lewisham  Greater London
vol 1d p 861


George Whittle and Emma Alloway married Christmas day ( :D) 1867 ...so he would most likely be registered under her maiden name !

deb :)
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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