Author Topic: Llanfawr and Gwyddelwern (Read 28066 times)

Gadget · « **Reply #18 on:** Saturday 12 July 08 23:29 BST (UK) »

Click for location of Llanfawr/Llanfor

castana1985 · « **Reply #19 on:** Saturday 12 July 08 23:42 BST (UK) »

Thanks, Gadget

Its even smaller than Gwyddelwern

Tracy

Gadget · « **Reply #20 on:** Saturday 12 July 08 23:45 BST (UK) »

Don't be deceived by them as places. The churches were in the villages of those names but the parishes were much bigger:

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MER/Llanfawr/index.html

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MER/Gwyddelwern/index.html

I've got the maps of the parish boundaries of Denbighshire and Merionethshire but they're copyright so can't put them up.

Gadget

Paul · « **Reply #21 on:** Tuesday 15 July 08 19:38 BST (UK) »

Hello Tracy, Gadget

I couldn't see a baptism for Martha in Gwyddelwern 1813-1820

I don't have access to Llanfawr records for Robert

Gwyddelwern marriage June 28 1839.
Robert Jones. full age. bachelor. Farmer. abode, Pentre cwm, Cerrigydrudion. Father, Ellis. Occ, Farmer.
Martha Jones. full age. spinster. abode, Sh?? Druid. Father, William. Occ, Farmer.
Witnesses. Hugh Jones & G?

Jones.

Corwen baptisms 1839-1870.
Born Dec 6 1839. Baptised Jan 19 1840. Margaret. D/O Robert & Martha Jones. Corwen. Publican.
May 2 1846. Jane D/O Robert & Martha Jones. Eagles, Corwen. Innkeeper.
Oct 13 1850 Catherine D/O Robert & Martha Jones. Eagles, Corwen. Innkeeper.

1840 Trade Directory. Corwen. Spread Eagle(honest

) Robert Jones.
1856 Trade Directory. Corwen. Eagles. John Jones.

Paul.

castana1985 · « **Reply #22 on:** Tuesday 15 July 08 21:42 BST (UK) »

Hi Paul

Thats fantastic. Thanks so much for that. Have you got any ideas where I could look for Martha's baptism??

Thanks again for your help.

Tracy

Gadget · « **Reply #23 on:** Tuesday 15 July 08 22:44 BST (UK) »

Paul's good, isn't he Tracy

Sad about your Martha and my Margaret not being related but all those Jones

I'll have a look for an Ellis Jones tomorrow in Llanfawr and another look for a William having children circa 1811 in Gwyddelwern.

Gadget

castana1985 · « **Reply #24 on:** Tuesday 15 July 08 23:12 BST (UK) »

Thanks Gadget.
You never know.... they are probably related.... a few more generations back

Paul - were there only the three baptisms??
In the 1841 census its showing two daughters.... Margaret and Winifred
and in the 1851 census its showing five children...... Margaret, Winifred, Ellinor, Jane and William.... but no Catherine??

I wonder whether either father might show up in the 1841/ 1851 census's.

Where could I look for Martha??

Another question... where are:
Pentre cwm, Cerrigydrudion & Sh?? Druid?? Are they villages? Roads? Districts? in Merionethshire?

Tracy

Paul · « **Reply #25 on:** Tuesday 15 July 08 23:50 BST (UK) »

Hi Tracy.
Margaret, Jane & Catherine were the only baptisms I could see in Corwen 1839 1870.

Sorry, I've as much idea as you about Pentre cwm.... etc. but I bet you someone will let us know

Paul

castana1985 · « **Reply #26 on:** Wednesday 16 July 08 01:00 BST (UK) »

Quote from: Paul on Tuesday 15 July 08 23:50 BST (UK)

Hi Tracy.
Margaret, Jane & Catherine were the only baptisms I could see in Corwen 1839 1870.

Sorry, I've as much idea as you about Pentre cwm.... etc. but I bet you someone will let us know

Paul

Hi Paul
Was just going through a free disc I just got with a magazine - Black's picturesque tourist guide to Wales 1872..... and the guide takes you on the road from Corwen down to Bettws - y - Coed through various places including a place called Cerrig-y-Druidion!! Could this be the place Martha is from??
If so, where do we need to look for the registrations?
Thanks
Tracy

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