Completely stuck - ASTON family

[louiseb]

Can anyone suggest some help or what to do next about finding my G-Grandfather - William Aston - birth certifcate / place / Date.

Going backward this is what I know:

Death : 24th Oct 1920, 16 Mason St, Stalybridge aged 46, occupation: Nail Cutter (journeyman)

Married : July 7th 1917 to Edith Barratt aged 40 (somehow aged 6yrs in the 3yrs between marriage and death!) in Christ Church, Dukinfield. Was a widower, occupation Bobbin Carrier, and lived 55 Castle St.
Father : Joseph Aston (deceased) who was a chain smith

They are the facts.

Rumours he was Master Freemason and that he walked from Scotland.

The only thing left I can think of are the electoral rolls - but how and where do you get access to them for 1917? or any local newspaper notices for marriage or death but don't know where to start with that either

Any other help ideas etc would be most gratefully received!

Thanks

[jacques]

Louise I dont have his Birth or Marriage

1901 @ Whitegate Farm Sound Cheshire
Joseph    Aston  Head Widower 66 (1835) Farmer  B Chesh  Tiverton??
Annie         "       Dau Single       35             Gen Dom Serv B     "
WILLIAM    "       Son    "            28(1873) Hay & Straw Dealer   "
Albert Henry"     Son    "            22              "          "       "  B Ches Sound
plus
George Fred "    Grandson        16           Farm/Ag Lab       B   "        "
Flossie Dodd      Granddau         8                                      B    "       "

and on same page
@ Field Farm Sound Cheshire
William Manning  Head Marr     63          Farmer                 B Chesh Acton
Jane         "         Wife               61                                                   "
ANNIE ASTON      Dau   Marr     28          Farmers Wife       B           "
John Manning     Son       "        21         Farmers Son        B           "
Alfred Aston        Grandson        4                                      B          "

If Joseph is Williams Father here is a possible Death on BMD for him
Joseph Aston March qtr 1905 aged 70 (1835) Nantwich 8a 255

There is also an earlier Death could be Joseph's Father
Dec qtr 1902 aged 84 (1818)  Chester 8a 235

Pam

[jacques]

If Joseph is Williams Father I have Census 1891 1881 1871 1861 and a possible Marriage for Joseph Aston and Elizabeth Large Dec Qtr 1860 reg Gt Broughton 8a 509

You may already have this information, let me know if you want it.

Pam

[ambers]

Could this be them, occupations are closer in type

 1901   RG13 2692 F78 P3 36 Penfold Street,


Joseph Aston /H/53 Nut and Bolt Turner...All born Darleston, Staffs
Emma /W/ 52
William /26/ Nut and Bolt Turner
Samuel/22/ Ironwork Maker
Emma/19/
Elijah 17/ Balcksmith
Joseph/15 Solicitors Clerk
Arthur/ 12/
Edward/10
Mushack? Green/51/Boarder/ blacksmith

Ambers

[jacques]

Me again

If previous are correct now have Joseph prior to Marriage at home with parents on 1851 and 1841

Let me know if you need them

Pam

[louiseb]

Pam / Ambers - Thanks for your help

Ambers I just found that exact census return last night, and think like you the occupations are similar - but how can I know I've found the right one?

So Pam if you have their previous info from 1851 & 1841 that would be most appreciated.

If this is right how could I use this information to find William's first marriage? - as then I'm thinking I could use his first wifes death to link it more readily to what i know

[carol8353]

Hi Louise

Who were the witnesses to his marriage- they can often be very useful siblings 

Do you have the details of his first marriage?

Again if you are stuck with a choice of a few to narrow down,getting the first marriage cert may help find him. It might tell us if Joseph was still alive then.

Carol

[ambers]

Hi Louise,

This is all part of the fun in finding relations, you never know until you find the proof to link them together...frustrating I know

I would do as Carols suggested, get the marriage certificate and fingers crossed that siblings are the Witnesses

Ambers

[louiseb]

Hi

I have no information for Williams first Marriage. The witnesses to his second to Edith Barratt were Charles Joseph Watkins and Margaret Ann Watkins

There is no way of seeing who a witness is on a death certifcate without getting the certifcate is there? as that is the only way I think I will find his first marriage

Thanks again

Louise