Ancestry of Ada BORRETT

[Daisypetal]

Looking at the age difference I wonder if this is a second marriage for Elizabeth


Marriage
William George BORRETT    Mar Q 1892    Greenwich    1d  1076
other names on page:
Minnie Pauline MARTIN
Elizabeth OLIVER
Alexander HEPBURN

I can see an Alexander HEPBURN with wife Minnie in Bromley, Kent in 1901



Transcribed as BONETT looks more like BORRETT

1891  RG12/517  f.103  p.33  Lewisham, London
Town: Blackheath
20 Essex Place

BORRETT
John         Head    M    50    Gas Fitter Lock        Surrey Peckham
Elizabeth    Wife    M    49                                Kent Greenwich
William        Son    S    21    Jobbing Bricklayer         "  "        "  "
Ada           Daur    S    16                                    "  "        "  "
Caroline     Daur    S    14                                     "  "        "  "


1881  RG11/729  f.130  p.57  Lewisham
20 Essex Place

BORRETT
John         Head  40   Driller C??? & File Sharpener at factory   Surrey Peckham
                                                                        file maker 
Elizabeth    Wife  39                                                            Kent Greenwich
James        Son  17  Plumber                                                  "  "    Lewisham
William       Son  11  Scholar                                                   "  "    Greenwich
Catherine   Daur   9 Scholar                                                    "  "        "  "       
Ada          Daur   6  Scholar                                                    "  "        "  "         
Caroline    Daur    4   Scholar                                                   "  "        "  "



1871  RG10/754  f.126  p.22  Greenwich, Kent
3 Atlas Street

BONETT
John          Head    31    Machinist    Surrey Peckham
Elizabeth    Wife    30                      Kent Greenwich
John           Son     9                         "  "    Lewisham
James         Son     7                         "  "        "  "
William        Son     1                        "  "   Greenwich



Now to find out about Elizabeth OLIVER

Daisy

[Daisypetal]

Sorrysomethings come up, I'll have to get back to you tomorrow.

Daisy

[larmat]

Thanks daisypetal and paulineJ!   That is definitely them.  Edith married a Ferdinand Boreaux from Brussels and he made wicker.   William Jr would have lived at 23 Old Hale Way, Hitchin Herts during WW2 and after.  I have written to that address but it is unlikely that the family still resides there.

For anyone else who might be interested in that family,  two of John Borrett's (Barrett) daughters are still alive in Canada.  Ada Barrett's daughter is living in Canada

I am very new to researching genealogy and was very mind boggled trying to find this information.   You have been very helpful.  I have linked my daughter to this so she can look up the addresses in London.   

I have a lot to learn about researching my family but would like to do so.   Your help is appreciated.
S

[Daisypetal]

Hi Shirley,

I'm just connecting this to your other post so people can see what else has been found

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,316315.msg1972675.html#msg1972675


I think I have an idea about Elizabeth OLIVER, let me look into it a bit more...

Daisy

[Daisypetal]

A theory about Elizabeth

On the marriages of her daughters Elizabeth's name is shown as JONES but she is OLIVER when she marries William BORRETT.

From experience of English birth certs etc I would presume that her maiden name was JONES then she married an OLIVER then married William.


In 1891 I found this widow,

1891  RG12/511  f.116  p.49  Greenwich
9 Braddyl Street

Elizabeth OLIVER    Head    Widow    34    Charwoman        Midx Town NK
George                  Son                 11    Scholar             Deptford
William                  Son                  9      "  "                    "  "
Susan                   Daur                 6      "  "                    "  "
W G GOLDBAN     Boarder       S       37  General Labourer    Kent Kingston


This looks like her in 1881, at Ancstry the VINT family are indexed as mother-in-law etc but on the image they are clearly living with another family next door

1881  RG11/705  f.54  p.4  Deptford St Paul
13 Evelyn St

George OLIVER    Head    M    29    Manager China Shop       Kent Woolwich
Elizabeth             Wife    M    23    Manageress    "              Midx Uxbridge
Minnie                 Daur           3                                        Kent Greenwich
George                Son            1                                           "   Deptford       


Possible marriage,

George John OLIVER    Jun Q 1876    Woolwich    1d  1350
Elizabeth Jones with same details


Unfortunately the only way to prove this would be to get both the JONES/OLIVER and the OLIVER/BORRETT marriage certs.


Daisy

[larmat]

A theory about Elizabeth

On the marriages of her daughters Elizabeth's name is shown as JONES but she is OLIVER when she marries William BORRETT.

From experience of English birth certs etc I would presume that her maiden name was JONES then she married an OLIVER then married William.


In 1891 I found this widow,

1891  RG12/511  f.116  p.49  Greenwich
9 Braddyl Street

Elizabeth OLIVER    Head    Widow    34    Charwoman        Midx Town NK
George                  Son                 11    Scholar             Deptford
William                  Son                  9      "  "                    "  "
Susan                   Daur                 6      "  "                    "  "
W G GOLDBAN     Boarder       S       37  General Labourer    Kent Kingston


This looks like her in 1881, at Ancstry the VINT family are indexed as mother-in-law etc but on the image they are clearly living with another family next door

1881  RG11/705  f.54  p.4  Deptford St Paul
13 Evelyn St

George OLIVER    Head    M    29    Manager China Shop       Kent Woolwich
Elizabeth             Wife    M    23    Manageress    "              Midx Uxbridge
Minnie                 Daur           3                                        Kent Greenwich
George                Son            1                                           "   Deptford       


Possible marriage,

George John OLIVER    Jun Q 1876    Woolwich    1d  1350
Elizabeth Jones with same details


Unfortunately the only way to prove this would be to get both the JONES/OLIVER and the OLIVER/BORRETT marriage certs.


Daisy

I does sound right!  That is why she is older than he on 1901 census.  I will work on those certificates tomorrow.  I also have her address in British Columbia from William's record in the Canadian War Memorial.  I was going to pursue looking into her death there but didn't know what name to use. She is listed on it at Elizabeth Borrett.

I also have John Caleb Borretts Canadian War Memorial record.   It does not show him as having died in WW1.    I can look that up too!  Thank you very much!