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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:24 BST (UK) »
No, his first name is William. As for the marriage, I have no idea when or where. I don't think he has a second name.
He was born in Manchester, but doing a search for 1850ish, gives far too many results to pin one down.
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:27 BST (UK) »
No, his first name is William. As for the marriage, I have no idea when or where. I don't think he has a second name.
He was born in Manchester, but doing a search for 1850ish, gives far too many results to pin one down.

He's Edward W. Edwards, aged 31, in 1881, birthplace Walsall, Staffs
Also Edward W. Edwards, aged 41, in 1891, birthplace Walsall, Staffs.

References as given above.


Anna
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:34 BST (UK) »
This is all so confusing. I have his sons' marriage certificate here and his name is down as William.
I know people use their middle names but I thought on official documents they are supposed to use the birth name?
Presumably, I am wrong.
You put me to shame.
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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:37 BST (UK) »


Debbie - it may well be that his son having always known him to be William, didn't realise his first name was Edward  :D
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott


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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:41 BST (UK) »
Certainly not trying to put anyone to shame! Just trying to help.

People did use middle names, and switch between first and middle, much more in the 19th century than we are familiar with these days.  In giving information to the Registrar the son might well have given the name his father preferred to use or was  accustomed to using.  The more research you do, the more you will see this - sometimes we think our ancestors were deliberately trying to confuse us ;)

The 1871 census confirms the existence of a 16 yr old Sarah Ann THOMAS b Worfield, Shropshire (living in Worfield) - see the marriage ref I gave you above.

1871:  RG10/2745/60/17

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:46 BST (UK) »
Posible births

Births Mar 1850

Edwards  Edward William    Walsall  17 265

Births Mar 1855

Thomas  Sarah Ann    Bridgnorth  6a 550

Pete :) :)
Edwards, mainly Cound, Frodesely, Acton Burnell. Pitchford. and surrounding villages, Shropshire, /  Rowe, Cound, / Littlehales, Berrington, Shropshire / Radford, Dublin, /   Maguire, Acton Burnell, /  Rudge, Frodesely, /

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Re: WYRVIL?????????
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:47 BST (UK) »
I think you must have better resources than me too.
Because I looked up Edwards without any first names on the 1881 census and hardly got any results.
I've been using freecen and freebmd.
With limited money to spend on the 1901 website too, I get lost and frustrated.
Never mind.
Thank you for your help.
I shall re-trace my steps.
Thanks again.
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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 19 July 08 13:55 BST (UK) »


Debbie  -  many of us on here have subs to the larger sites and so access to all the census - and we're here to help ;D

Post what you know about the family and we'll see if we can sort you out  :D

What do you know about the children - the son whose marriage cert. you have would be a good place to start - tell us about him.....
Census information is Crown Copyright from TNA.
Titchfield, Hampshire: Reed,  Fielder, Cawte, Goddard.
Kent:  Float,  Cutbush. 
Wallasey, Cheshire: Carroll, Ledsham.
Liverpool : Horsfall, Prescott

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 19 July 08 14:15 BST (UK) »
GEORGE EDWARDS (AGE 26) MARRIED NELLIE BARNETT (AGE 22) ON 23RD DECEMBER 1911 AT THE REGISTER OFFICE IN THE DISTRICT OF BIRMINGHAM.
THEY BOTH LIVED AT:
1 BACK 2
INGLEBY STREET
BIRMINGHAM.
GEORGES FATHER IS DOWN AS WILLIAM EDWARDS
NELLIES FATHER IS DOWN AS SAMUEL ISAAC (DECEASED)
THERE IS A NOTE ON THE SIDE SAYING THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS WERE MADE....
"COLUMN 3 - CHANGED FROM 23 TO 22"
"COLUMN 7 - FOR SAMUEL ISAAC READ SAMUEL ISAAC BARNETT"
BARNETT BOURNE CONDUCT COOPER EDWARDS HOLLOWAY KITE LAMMING MORRIS ROBINSON