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1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« on: Tuesday 22 July 08 06:02 BST (UK) »
Hi there,
This is a bit of long shot, but can some kind soul possibly help with a look-up from the 1841 or 1851  census for Warwick Square in Pimilico ?
I am looking for a family named MASON ( could be MONCK MASON ?) known to be living in Warwick Square in 1841
- possibly a James Mason with a wife Ann ?
Daughter Anna Maria Alicia Monck Mason born Summer 1841.

Any help much appreciated :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 07:42 BST (UK) »
Anna gives a different age from the one she gives on the 1881 census on the 1861 census shortly after her marriage.

1861 census RG9 1129 folio 30
Ballingdon Street Ballingdon With Brundon Suffolk
Robert K Longden 40 Head Married Rector of Brent Ely Suffolk Gloucestershire
Anna M A Longden 23 Wife Married Pimlico Middlesex

Her death registration is consistent with an earlier birth

Deaths Mar 1898   
Longden  Anna Maria A  60  Epping  4a 215

Do you have the details of her father from her marriage?

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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 July 08 20:52 BST (UK) »
There is a James & Ann Mason in Marylebone in 1841 at 26 Brown Street 679/5/18
James 40 Labourer
Ann 35 Milliner Both born in the county.

Can only find a Warwick Place  678/11/6-7
Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 July 08 10:02 BST (UK) »
ANNA MARIA MASON's birth was registered within the MARYLEBONE R.D in the Sep qtr of 1841...do you have the birth cert?

Pimlico isn't, as far as i'm aware, within the Marylebone R.D!

Their is a Warwick Square in 1841.......as seen in the 1841 London P.O directory...go to street index, take page number and then add on 30+ pages (image 301)

http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/findbylocation.asp

Warwick Square was in the Christchurch Parish and if you input the name Alexander Martin (taken from the 1841 directory as he is seen living there) in 1841 Middlesex and Christchurch as a Parish you will find him or should I say Warwick Square and then you can page up and down if you wish

1861
Robert Longden is 40 born Gloucestershire......1871 he is 53 born Paddington!
Isabella Mallard the 44 year old cook in 1861 went with them to Suffolk.....Isabella was a Shoreditch gal and also hasn't a clue how old she is........seen living with her mum & siblings in Shoreditch 1841

When you look at the view images section of freebmd it quite clearly states ANNA MARIA ALICIA MONCK MASON so one can only assume that Monck is supposed to be MONK and someone assumed that was the way to spell it!

Anna is pretty adamant she was born circa 1838 so perhaps the birth of ANNA MARIA MASON in 1841 Marylebone R.D is not her!

GEORGE MASON married SOPHIA MONK on the 26th March 1826 at St Leonards Shoreditch (the servant came from Shoreditch!) is this Anna's parents?

1861
4 BRIDPORT STREET, MARYLEBONE, MIDDLESEX
SOPHIA MASON      HEAD   54 (WID)                MARYLEBONE, MIDDLESEX
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Sorry........I don't have access to the 1851

1841
WARREN STREET, ST PANCRAS, MARYLEBONE, MIDDLESEX
SOPHIA MASON   30   IND    YES
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Bryant
Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 July 08 15:13 BST (UK) »
Hi, I was looking in Marylebone!!!

It comes under The City of London ref 720/9/28-30.

Still not there .

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 July 08 15:42 BST (UK) »
The Monck/Monk Mason family seem to come from Ireland and there are a few of them scattered about the different censuses, seems to be quite a wealthy family, is it the same one do you think?  :-\
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 July 08 15:49 BST (UK) »
Although, after googling, it seems they are "descended from Sir John Mason of Sion, Middlesex". Looks an interesting family if she is a Monck Mason
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 July 08 16:24 BST (UK) »
Hi, Could she be related to the family she is visiting on the 1881 census. He seems quite wealthy and he was a Magistrate?

Walter J.W.Poley

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 July 08 16:36 BST (UK) »
According to IGI, Walter Poley married a Catherine Halifax, wonder if they're related or just friends.

Is her husband Robert K, Robert Knight Longden, son of Thomas Hayter Longden? (hes on thepeerage.com if its the same person)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov