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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 09:39 BST (UK) »
Marriages Mar 1860   
Longden  Robert Knight    St. Geo. H. Sq.  1a 276   
Mason  Anna Maria Alicia Monck     St Geo Han Sq  1a 276

1851 census HO107 1593 folio 112
Weybridge Surrey
William Monk Mason 75 Head Widower B A Annuitant Ireland
Thomas Monk Mason 47 Son Widower B A Annuitant Ireland 
Caroline Georgina Mason 14 Granddaughter Westminster Middlesex 
Alica Mason 1?? Granddaughter Westminster Middlesex
Robert Mason 4 Grandson Hackney Middlesex
plus 1 visitor and three servants

1841 census HO107 732/7 folio 11
27 Coleshill Sreet St George Hanover Square Westminster
Thos Mason 35 Ind(epent) Ireland
Maria Mason 25 not born Middlesex
Caroline Mason 4 born Middlesex
Anna Mason 3 born Middlesex 
Thos Mason 2  born Middlesex
Willim Mason 2 months born Middlesex

Deaths Mar 1849   
Mason  Maria Monck     Chertsey  4 81

Weybridge registers in Chertsey registration district.

Not quite sure whether this is the same Thomas Monck Mason - there are several

1881 census RG11 344 folio 82
Suttons Hospital The Charterhouse St Sepulchre Without london
Thomas Monck Mason 77  Poor Brother Widower Author Religious And Scientific Ireland

Deaths Sep 1889   
Mason  Thomas Monck  85  Kensington  1a 111

http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/person.asp?LinkID=mp03007

http://original.britannica.com/eb/topic-1442991/Thomas-Mason

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DUUCD--AZdIC&pg=PA451&lpg=PA451&dq=%22thomas+monck+mason%22&source=web&ots=N3goqyMUnU&sig=wpIhhclZe18-n9cy1dFiCzcR5o4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPA452,M1


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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 10:09 BST (UK) »
Caroline Georgina Monck Mason is easier to follow through the censuses than her sister.

Marriages Dec 1873   
Malan  Charles Hamilton     Eastry  2a 1551   
MASON  Caroline Georgiana M     Eastry  2a 1551

1881 census RG11 1194 folio 136
Gervis Rd E. Lindisfarne Christchurch Hampshire
Charles H. Malan 43 Head Married Retired major of infantry Brighton Sussex
Caroline Malan 44  Wife Married Wife of retired major London
plus 5 servants

a widow in Kensington on the 1891 census

1871 census RG10 306 folio 66
129 Mildmay Street Islington
Caroline Mason 34 Head Unmarried Lady Independent  Pimlico, Middlesex

1861 census RG9 604 folio 36
48 York Road Hove Sussex
Charles L Sauvage 85 Visitor Married French Professor Boulonge France
Cecilia M M Mason 9 Daughter East Indies
Alice F M Mason 8 Daughter East Indies
Mary G M Mason 4 Daughter East Indies
Caroline G M Mason 24 Unmarried Cousin London Middlesex
plus 1 governess, 2 visitors and 4 further servants.

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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 29 July 08 21:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda,
This is fascinating. Many thanks  ! :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Does it possibly give the full household for 48 York Road Hove for 1861 ??


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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 07:17 BST (UK) »
The others present on census night in the household in Hove in 1861 were

Edward A Mildmay 8 Visitor East Indies
Lucy M C Monday 31 Governess unmarried Woodside Hants
Ann O'Keef 70 Visitor Widow Nurse Dangarvon? Ireland
Sarah Chiles 37 Servant Mendlesham Suffolk
Clara Chiles 16 Servant Mendlesham Suffolk
Susannah Chiles 23 Servant Mendlesham Suffolk
Gertrude Freeman 12 Servant Nursemaid Mendlesham Suffolk
Ellen M. Warner 15 Visitor East Indies

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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 07:56 BST (UK) »
It does appear that Charles L Sauvage is a visitor to number 47 denoted by / followed by // and the household at number 48 starts with Cecilia aged 9 and also marked daughter.........daughter of whom?

Bryant
Researching names BRYANT (Camberwell), PASTERFIELD (Essex and all), RAY (Holborn/Islington areas back to Brentford), POWELL (Glouc & beyond?)
Fletcher (Glouc into Warwickshie into Lancs?), BUCKLEY (Chatham area), Watson (Chatham area).


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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 08:05 BST (UK) »
The cousins full names

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ObnB2K0Pm-gC&pg=PA97&lpg=PA97&dq=%22willism+monck+mason%22&source=web&ots=UxEiVnbjXs&sig=W-GVuzj-zVynk3N3oX9ArKil1Yc&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=4&ct=result#PPA97,M1

Cecilia Mary Monck Mason born 1851 married 1875 Col. William Lacy Hutchinson
Alice Frances Monck Mason born 1853 married Ferdinand Hess (on the 1891 census in Kensington)
and probably named after an earlier relative but the source doesn't say that for certain
Mary Grey Monck Mason

I think William Monck Mason, the father of Thomas Monck Mason 1803-1889, was William Charles Monck Mason 1775-1859

Deaths Mar 1859  
MASON  William Charles Monck     Kingston  2a 130

He is likely to have left a will.

http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/infoabout/civil/probate/index.htm

Maria aged 35, his daughter-in-law, is definitely buried at St James Weybridge, William Charles is not.


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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 08:28 BST (UK) »
I can't see a marriage (1849) or death registered for the father of the girls in Hove

George Henry Monck Mason 1824-1857

The older brother of the sisters in 1861

1861 census RG9 2087 folio 46
Hallow, Worcestershire
G Gordon Monk Mason  10 Pupil Near Delhi British Subject, India   

Gordon George Monck Mason 1850-?  married 1878 Millicent Rose.

and their mother Sarah Louisa nee Cheyne

1861 census RG9 501 folio 95
Barracks Sandling Road Maidstone, Kent
Sarah Louisa Monck Mason  34 Widow  Lady  Ireland Visitor 

Possible death registration

Deaths Sep 1877   
MASON  Sarah Louisa M  51  Dover  2a 497


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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 08:40 BST (UK) »
Cemetery: County WICKLOW, St Pauls Bray Memorials

“On The North Wall Of The Chancel –White Marble Tablet:-\
TO THE MEMORY OF/ GEORGE HENRY MONCK MASON/ )ELDEST SON OF CAPTAIN THOMAS MONCK
MASON R. N.)/ CAPTAIN IN THE LATE 74TH REGT / BENGAL NATICE INFANTRY/ AND
POLITICAL AGENT, JHONPOOR, RAJPOOTANAH/ INDIA/ BORN OCTOBER 23RD 1823/KILLED IN
ACTION AT AWAH IN RAJPOOTANAH/ SEPTEMBER 18TH 1857 / I HEARD THE VOICE OF HEAVEN
/ SAYING UNTO ME WRITE/ FROM HENCEFORTH BLESSED ARE THE DEAD / WHICH DIE IN THE
LORD/ EVEN SO SAITH THE SPIRIT, FOR/ THEY REST FROM THEIR LABOURS/ REV X1V. 18.


http://www.igp-web.com/igparchives/wicklow/cems/st-pauls-bray-mems.txt

Memorials to other members of the family continue.


Lieutenant George Henry Monck Mason - murdered by mutineers at Awah - 8th June 1857
Aged 33. Son of Captain Thomas Mason, Royal Navy, and Mary, of Co. Wicklow. Joined the Bengal Army in 1842. Killed by mutineers of the Jodhpur Legion.
Tablet in St. James' Church, Delhi - "Captain G.H. Monck Mason. Political Agent Joudpore. Killed in Rajpootana."


http://members.tripod.com/Glosters/IM6.htm


George Henry Monck Mason
'''George Henry Monck Mason''' ([[1826]]-[[1867]]X British resident at Jodhpore; nephew of Henry Joseph Monck Mason; dUtinguisht.il himself as assistant to agent at Rajpootaua from 1847, and as political agent at Kerowlee; resident at Jodhpore, 1867; provided for safety of Europeans on mutiny of the Jodbpore legion; accompanied troops to meet Sir George St. Patrick Lawrence , and was murdered by the rebels,


Henry Joseph Monck Mason
'''Henry Joseph Monck Mason''' ([[1778]]-[[1868]]), miscellaneous writer: brother of William Monck; scholar and gold medallist, Trinity College, Dublin; B.A., 1798; Irish barrister, 1800; examiner to prerogative court; subsequently librarian of King's Inns, 1816; corresponded with Robert Southey: organised societies for giving religious instruction to the Irish-speaking population, and for improvement of prisons: instrumental in founding Irish professorship and scholarships at Dublin University; LL.D. Dublin, 1817; works includeEssay on the Antiquity and Constitution of Parliaments in Ireland 1820.


William Monok Mason
'''William Monok Mason''' ([[1775]]-[[1859]]), historian ; brother of Henry Joseph Monck Mason; hind waiter for exports at Dublin, 1796; published The History and Antiquities of the... Church of St. Patrick 1819 (portion of much larger projected work), and a pamphlet, Suggestions relative to... a Survey... of Ireland 1825.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/Dictionary_of_National_Biography/10

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Re: 1841/1851 help please - MASON of PIMILICO
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 30 July 08 23:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda,
That's absolutley brilliant,
Many thanks for all the time you've taken to search and transcribe  it all  :) :) :)