Can anyone help solve this mystery???

[forthefamily]

Minnie = Amelia 

Births Sep 1878   
North    Amelia        Poole    5a   301

Minnie in 1881 was born in Hamworthy Dorset. Poole is a registration district for Dorset.....and Hamworthy is in the district according to

Genuki.....http://www.uk-genealogy.org.uk/genuki/DOR/1891census.html

mab

[Cas (stallc)]

In this time frame..unless unmarried father was present at registation, he would not be included on birth cert. And then sometimes excluded, even if present, this happened up until mid 1900's

Google for info....

Why are you assuming  Emily is mother...  census details are only complete on night of census it does not mean exclude possible others of this family that may not be not present in household.

If you really need to confirm, you need this birth cert to carry fwd, without spec.

Without doubt this is what I would do...

Regards

Cas

[pompeygirl1]

Thanks for that silvery, like i say total novice  . Now all i have to do is wait a few days....the suspense is killing me lol

[silvery]

Join the club 

Come back, let us know the outcome!

[Valda]

You really do need to obtain the birth certificate for Amelia Emily to know one way or the other who her parent/s were, but if Ephraim was the father he is probably missing from the censuses because he was in the navy.

Series Admiralty: Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services

Name  Hoare, Ephraim Thomas
Official Number:  169775
Place of Birth:  Southampton, Hampshire
Date 14 March 1874
Catalogue reference ADM 188/277  

A possible death for Amelia (doesn't explain why she is missing from the censuses - any that is as Hoare, North or Cottrell/Cottrill) but then so is Emily North nee Cottrill's husband William equally census shy.

Deaths Sep 1909  
HOARE  Amelia  33  Southampton  2c 17

which might make this a possibilty for a remarriage for Ephraim

Marriages Jun 1910  
HOARE  Ephraim Thomas     S. Stoneham  2c 140    
either  
CUFF  Louisa     S. Stoneham  2c 140    
or
MOODY  Amy Matilda     S. Stoneham  2c 140

Without the birth certificate for Amelia Emily it is all just speculation.

Regards

Valda

[pompeygirl1]

cas I have just ordered the birth cert...holding breath till it arrives....going blue already!
hmmm I assume/d emily was mother as a couple of nanoseconds ago the only info I had was Amelia emily Hoare age 5 living with Grandma Emily North, who in turn had a husband who could of been anyone/anywhere but he could drive
 trains. and between them had at least 4 children the most likely one to be amelias mother was emily as she was old enough and the other 3 would have been quite young and if she was bens son her name would be amelia emily North not Hoare. oh and the middle name is the same as possibly mums as well as grandmas.  
Having decided all that im prob wrong and there could be another daughter lurking somewhere married to a Hoare that I haven't uncovered yet  
i'm confused now about minnie = amelia  

[Cas (stallc)]

Sit patiently/impatiently, hopefully all will be revealed! (you will at least know her mother...)

Good luck with your research...you will get to know more, that will make things easier/clearer with experience...enjoy the chase

Best wishes

Cas 

[pompeygirl1]

Valda, Amelia didn't die in 1909, she was my paternal grandma , she married William Eacott in 1920. my father Douglas was born 1925, try finding his birth record lol I still haven't!
However my mother and father divorced when I was about 3 yrs old and I know nothing much about either of them.
I was looking into who my paternal great grandad was and came across the north/hoare mystery why was her name hoare and who was her father...the plot thickens  

[pompeygirl1]

cas, mab silvery, everyone ty again.
the paddocks next door to amelia and gran was a shocker lol how many times and for how long have I stared at that census and not seen that.
Like I said at the start of this post the answer is prob staring me in the face and it was! typical, just needed a bit of help and a head screwed on the right way to see it 
I have so much new stuff to go on now it will keep me occupied until the cert plonks on the mat and all is revealed.
I will post the results as soon as I know.