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1891/1901 Census please
« on: Friday 25 July 08 15:54 BST (UK) »
Looking for William Brook Lewis and his wife Sarah hopefully in Llangennech. Children William, Ethelwyn, Edith and Arthur.

Also; William/Samuel Lewis (b1836) and his wife Ann (Hannah?).

Thank you
Lewis/Morgan - Carmarthenshire
Jones - Denbighshire
McCormack/McLoughlin - Liverpool
McKenzie - Liverpool/Lanarkshire/ Aus/USA/NZ
Ballantyne - Glasgow, Liverpool
Evans - Merionethshire
Turnell - Northamptonshire
Jones - Glamorgan
Wood - Nova Scotia, Mass, USA
Booth - Aus
Francis - Carmarthen
Griffiths - Glamorgan and Llanelli
Morgan - Llanelly, Pontardulais
Williams - Llanelly
Bryant ,Chesbro - Massachusetts, USA
Petrie - Connecticut, USA
Winters, Tetley,Oulds - Australia

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Re: 1891/1901 Census please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 July 08 16:34 BST (UK) »
there is this family (you didn't give y.o.b. -or a middle initial)
1891
Brynteg
Llangennech
William lewis head M 27 Doubler in Iron wworks Bynan Carm
Sarah A wife 2 Northampton Carm
William H son 5 Llangennech
Ethelwyn J daughter 3 llangennech
Edith E daughter 10mths Llangennech
George J(?) Turnell Lodger S 17 Puddler Dagen laneth carm
Rg12 4492 28 49

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Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: 1891/1901 Census please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 July 08 17:16 BST (UK) »
1901 - RG13 Piece 5086 Folio 131 Page 52
School House,  Llangennech, Carmarthen

Both languages spoken
 
William Lewis 38 head, coal hewer Llangennech
Sarah Ann Lewis 38  wife, school caretaker, Northampton
William Henry Lewis 15 son, school teacher ? Llangennech
Esthel Emma   Ethel Wynne Lewis 13 dau, Llangennech
Edith Emma Lewis 10  dau, Llangennech
Arthur Thos Lewis 7 son, Llangennech

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: 1891/1901 Census please
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 July 08 22:23 BST (UK) »
This is they!! thank you very much! Any sign of the other couple? George is related to Sarah somehow but I've yet to find out how. Are Bynan and Dagen Laneth places of birth?
Lewis/Morgan - Carmarthenshire
Jones - Denbighshire
McCormack/McLoughlin - Liverpool
McKenzie - Liverpool/Lanarkshire/ Aus/USA/NZ
Ballantyne - Glasgow, Liverpool
Evans - Merionethshire
Turnell - Northamptonshire
Jones - Glamorgan
Wood - Nova Scotia, Mass, USA
Booth - Aus
Francis - Carmarthen
Griffiths - Glamorgan and Llanelli
Morgan - Llanelly, Pontardulais
Williams - Llanelly
Bryant ,Chesbro - Massachusetts, USA
Petrie - Connecticut, USA
Winters, Tetley,Oulds - Australia


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Re: 1891/1901 Census please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 July 08 23:38 BST (UK) »
Possible...Marriage Sep 1884   (Correct reg district for Llangennech)
 
LEWIS  William    Llanelly  11a 1071   
Turnell  Sarah Anne     Llanelly  11a 1071

Looking for William Brook Lewis and his wife Sarah hopefully in Llangennech. Children William, Ethelwyn, Edith and Arthur.

Also; William/Samuel Lewis (b1836) and his wife Ann (Hannah?).

Thank you

Are the second couple in the same area? This is the only one that came up, could not find a Samuel around the birthyear.

1891 - RG12 Piece 4491 Folio 82 Page 3
1 Rhandir Terrace, Llangennech

Welsh spoken for both.

William L Lewis 54  head, tin worker b. Llangennech
Ann Lewis 59 wife, b. Llannon

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George Turnell in 1891 is b Dafen/Dagen, Llanelli

Think the birthplace for William 1891  is Bryn, but transcribed wrongly.. ???

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llangennech/index.html

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: 1891/1901 Census please
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 July 08 00:19 BST (UK) »
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llanelli/index.html

1881 - Turnell family in Llanelly, George age 8 b Dafen Llanelly

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03xs/

1881 - Sarah A Turnell, working as FS in same area.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03xt/

1881 - William & family, looks a good match for parents in 1891

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03xu/

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: 1891/1901 Census please
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 July 08 19:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you Cas. I had the marriage in 1884 from the family bible. I have been looking for my Turnells in Northants because that was where Sarah was born but it seems I may have been misdirected! If this was Sarahs step father then I might have found a likely birth father one William Heel, a soldier, born in Hertfordshire, hence the recording of family names as Heel Turnell. Alternatively I shall have to search a marriage of Emma Heel to Turnell possibly in Wales. Oh the twists and turns that make this such an interesting hobby   ::) ::)
Lewis/Morgan - Carmarthenshire
Jones - Denbighshire
McCormack/McLoughlin - Liverpool
McKenzie - Liverpool/Lanarkshire/ Aus/USA/NZ
Ballantyne - Glasgow, Liverpool
Evans - Merionethshire
Turnell - Northamptonshire
Jones - Glamorgan
Wood - Nova Scotia, Mass, USA
Booth - Aus
Francis - Carmarthen
Griffiths - Glamorgan and Llanelli
Morgan - Llanelly, Pontardulais
Williams - Llanelly
Bryant ,Chesbro - Massachusetts, USA
Petrie - Connecticut, USA
Winters, Tetley,Oulds - Australia

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Re: 1891/1901 Census please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 July 08 10:37 BST (UK) »
1861- RG9 Piece 2 Folio 51 Page 52
Paddington, Middlesex

Emma Rowe  19, Servant,   Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire

Marriages Jun 1862   
 
Heel  William    St Geo Han Sq  1a 465   
Higgins  Jane     St Geo. Han. Sq  1a 465   
Rowe  Emma     St Geo Han Sq  1a 465   

Births Jun 1864   HEEL  Sarah Ann    Towcester  3b 23
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/towcester.html    (covers Pattishall)

1871 - RG10 Piece 203 Folio 26 Page 43
Realiell ? St, St Pancas, London

Image states 'Heel'

William Keel 31 head, deal porter, Pattishall, Northamptonshire
Emma Keel 37   wife, Herts, Rickmansworth
Annie Keel 7  dau, Pattishall, Northamptonshire
William Keel 5  son, St Pancras, Middlesex
Albert H Keel 2 son, " "

1881 for Brother, William (same area)

http://www.rootschat.com/links/03yd/

Cannot find a second marriage  :-\

Deaths Sep 1884   Turnell  Emma  52  Llanelly  11a 417

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 July 08 10:52 BST (UK) »
Births Mar 1873  Heel  George Thomas    Llanelly  11a 693

Marriages Mar 1895 
 
John  Mary    Llanelly  11a 1131   
Morgan  Daniel     Llanelly  11a 1131   
Thomas  Elizabeth Ann     Llanelly  11a 1131   
Turnell  George Thomas     Llanelly  11a 1131


1901 - RG13 Piece 5086 Folio 72 Page 55
Loughor, Glamorgan

George T Turnell 28 head, coal hewer, Dafen, Carmarthenshire
Elizabeth A Turnell 25  wife, Llanelli
William E Turnell 5  son, Loughor Glam
Thomas O Turnell 3  son, Loughor, Glam
Elizabeth E Turnell 3 mths dau,  Loughor, Glam
Edward Turnell ? 64 Father in law, coal hewer, Carm, Llanelli

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Squire/Thomas/Davies/Gibbons/Mordecai/Bowen/Lewis/Rees/Williams/Jones/Llewellyn/Morgan - Glamorgan
Lewis - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd/Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland