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John Webb - Gilmorton - completed
« on: Saturday 26 July 08 01:02 BST (UK) »
I am trying to unravel a potential mystery.

In tracing my potential ancestor William Webb, listed on Gilmorton census in 1841, i can find records of him being born to a John Webb(e) and Ann about 1817.  Other siblings of John and Ann appear to be Ann (1820), Elizabeth (1822) and Phylis (1829).  I have found John and Ann on the 1841 census in Gilmorton where they are living with Phylis who is 13.  Then in the 1851 census they are living in Gilmorton alone.  The record lists Ann as coming from Broadwell, Warwickshire.  Then in 1861 i can only find Ann living with a Joseph Wood and his wife Elizabeth.  This again lists her from Broadwell although it lists her status as Step Mother.  I can therefore only imagine that she is the stepmother of Elizabeth as her age fits in with the potential christening listing of Elizabeth (1822).

Therefore, it may prove to follow that Ann was actually stepmother to all or some of the Children and that John was previously married to another Ann.  Can anyone help me unravel this mystery with some marriage lookups etc?

Perhaps i have got the links all wrong as i worked backwards from the 1861 census, which lists my ancestor William Webb (presumed son of William Webb above) born circa 1852 and living in Lutterworth with his mother Elizabeth, born circa 1811, from Gilmorton.  There is no sign of the potential father William Webb (1817) on this census and therefore i made the link by looking up Elizabeth in the Gilmorton 1851 census (where it lists her as a widow) and Gilmorton 1841 census' where she is living with her husband William Webb and several children, which also tie her to the 1851 census.  Elizabeth's  birth date fits in all three census' so i have assumed that this is the correct person as Gilmorton is not a large village.  However if i am wrong any help would be most appreciated!

Thanks in advance

TB

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Re: John Webb - Gilmorton
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 July 08 10:50 BST (UK) »
Truebrit,
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Re: John Webb - Gilmorton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 July 08 21:40 BST (UK) »
Greeting’s again True Brit……..

All Saints Parish Church.
Gilmorton

Parish Registers.
Read thus :~


Fiche DE 2753. / 4. one of two fiches.

Page No. 12. A.D.1817.
Entry No. 90.August 24th.

Wm. Son of John & Ann WEBB.
Gilmorton.
Labourer.
D. J. Burdett. Rector.

Page. 18. A.D. 1820.
Entry. No 139.21st. May.
Ann. Daughter of John & Ann WEBBE
Gilmorton.
Labourer.
D. J. Burdett. Rector.

Entry No. 140.21st. May.
Mary. Daughter of Willm & Ann WEBBE.
Gilmorton.
FRAME WORK KNITTER.
D. J. Burdett.

Page. 25. A.D. 1822.
Entry. No. 193. October. 22nd.
ELIZTH.  Daughter of John & Ann WEBBE.
Gilmorton.
FRAME WORK KNITTER.
D J. Burdett. Rector.

Page. 33. A.D. 1825.
Entry No. 272. November. 27th.
John. Son of John & Ann WEBB.
Gilmorton.
Labourer.
D. J. Burdett. Rector.

Page. 43. A.D. 1829.
Entry No. 349. May. 10th.

Philis. Daughter of John & Ann WEBB.
Gilmorton.
Labourer.
D. J. Burdett. Rector.

Going on the Occupation that of Labourer for your John & Ann
And Frame Work Knitter. for William & Ann. 
I believe there was two separate WEBB(E) Families within the Village

I believe the Parish Clark put the wrong Husbands Christian name
Down for the Baptism of ELIZTH. It should have read
Daughter of William & Ann …that’s going on the occupation given.

The only nearest Marriage I could see was :~
John Webb. ~ Ann Hopkins.
Both of this Parish.
SHEARSBY.( St. Mary Magdalene ) ( 4.5 Miles to the East of Gilmorton )
14th. October. 1816.
By Banns & consent of Parents.
By Thomas Warmeley. Curate.
John Signed by Mark = +
Ann by Mark = +
In the presence of Thomas Simon. ( Parish Clark. ) Harry Parker.

Hope this is of some help to you.

MIKE.
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: John Webb - Gilmorton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 July 08 22:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Mike - lots of info there!!!  I shall have a good look through it and let you know.

Many thanks

TB


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Re: John Webb - Gilmorton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 July 08 22:10 BST (UK) »

" Your very Welcome True Brit......"

MIKE.
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.

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Re: John Webb - Gilmorton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 July 08 22:22 BST (UK) »
Had a look at that info.  Very interesting.  I note on later census's that Ann Webb is listed as coming from Broadwell, Warwickshire with a birthdate of around 1786.  Could the marriage have taken place there? Or are there any listings for an Ann (Hopkins) born around that time there to tie in with your proposed marriage?

Thanks for the christening info - the occupation comment is interesting.  I suppose the rector may have also put the wrong occupation down for Elizabeth's father so she could still be from Ann and William - her date fits in the chronological listing of children....

Thanks again

TB