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Offline SteveJW

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Train in France 1916
« on: Sunday 03 August 08 19:01 BST (UK) »
A colleague has asked if I could post the following two pictures
Soldiers believed to Royal Engineers
Any information appreciated
Are the locomotives local or were they taken across from England


Many Thanks

Steve
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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 03 August 08 21:01 BST (UK) »
The first one could be, and certainly looks like, a Hunslet 4-6 0T which was a British locomotive widely used on the Western front.

The second picture has a different locomotive

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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 03 August 08 21:15 BST (UK) »
I'd agree with K - the first could well be English - although the double domes are unusual - everything else looks right. And it does look like the Hunslets.

The second looks more... foreign. The funnel's not very English, and the front end is unlike any UK loco I know.

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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 August 08 21:20 BST (UK) »
Brock: Alburgh, Norfolk, and after 1850, London; Tooley: Norfolk<br />Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk<br />Harrison: London; Pollock<br />Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx<br />Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk<br />Rogers: London; Bartlett: London<br />Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants<br />Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 August 08 21:30 BST (UK) »
The second looks like the Baldwin Class 10-12-D, produced for the War Department Light Railways



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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 August 08 21:31 BST (UK) »
Looking at the sign at the front of the engine, it has Sapper Street Hersin, there is a bit about the cemetry , on this site

http://www.ww1cemeteries.com/ww1frenchcemeteries/hersincomm.htm

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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 03 August 08 21:43 BST (UK) »
Beat me to it, Kyt!

I suddenly realised it looked American, and that there were a number of American locos there (and indeed here) during the wars.

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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 03 August 08 21:52 BST (UK) »
And I realised that the easiest would to see which ones were used by the War Department Light Railways  ;D

And the troops are probably of the Railway Operating Division

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Operating_Division

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Re: Train in France 1916
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 August 08 09:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve

If you scroll down to 'Railway Companies' there are two further links - http://www.1914-1918.net/cre.htm

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