Newspapers, searching for Thomas Williams ,

[wilcoxon]

There is also this one

Marriages Sep 1883   
 
HOPKINS  Benjamin    Bridgend  11a 834   
HOWELLS  Catherine     Bridgend  11a 834   
REES  Elizabeth     Bridgend  11a 834   
WILLIAMS  Watkin     Bridgend  11a 834

Births Dec 1884  Williams  Shadrack    Pontypridd  11a 479

Cas

You wouldn`t beleive it would you,  these are not the right records, Watkin married Catherine,  and Shadracks parents are not Watkin and Elizabeth.
How much closer could we have got 

[Cas (stallc)]

This must be so disappointing for you, don't know what to suggest, think you should stick with what you know, that may help give clues.

Think you should get marriage cert when next have funds.  It would give you both father & son occupations, possibly if he is deceased.  Also address, area, at marriage, and age on cert, although age at death was 25, so approx c1890.  You know the 1891 census is unavailable, and cannot find a firm match in 1901 that can be proved.

Marriages Dec 1908   
DAVIES  Mary Miriam    Merthyr T.  11a 1264   
WILLIAMS  Thomas     Merthyr T.  11a 1264

Try to obtain his service record from Kew or wait for it to come online, this will give you address on enlistment, age and next of kin, hopefully he enlisted before marriage, if his father was deceased it may name mother, or sibling

Possibly the 1911 will have additional family listed with his family of wife?

Hope this helps a little 

Cas

[wilcoxon]

Reply from register office. Fair play, they are being very helpful, but I`m still stumped.
Sorry to disappoint you- Watkin Williams married Margaret Jones, Mar qtr 1879.
Dianne Green,Supt. Registrar.

I already have it confirmed from the register office that Thomas who married Mary Miriam was the son of Watkin - a collier. BUT , they didn`t say if he was deceased.
 Perhaps the marriage of Vida will confirm if this is the right  family, then it`s back to the drawing board, trying to find a marriage.
 Oh well  Maybe Watkin wasn`t from Glamorgan at all, Oh I don`t know now


 

[Cas (stallc)]

Well if you do get the marriage of Vida, you will know if there is a possible connection.  Tried to check how many Watkin were in the 1881 last night...but bit fruitless, as not known if he was even in Glamorgan then.

Think the marriage cert would possibly give you address (area) for him, when there are so little factual clues to work with.  That is why I suggested go with what you know.  Possibly his service record may help, at least you know it is connected.

Just read a thread that access to 1911 may start in 2009 re findmypast.  You have a possible address for wife in Merthyr so hopfully it may also shed light.

Hope you get there, you deserve it!

Best wishes and good luck

Cas

[wilcoxon]

Well it`s nearly 2 years on and I`m still searching for Thomas.
I have him in 1911
1911 26 Cwm Graig,
Thomas Williams 23 marr 3 years b America KN.
Mary ( Miriam) wife 22 b Dowais
Walter son 1 b Dowlais

I know now that this family are the wrong one.

1911 2 St Davids Terrace.
Elizabeth Williams
Shadrack Williams
Thomas Williams b America
Vida Williams b America
Philip Williams

1901 living at Taillwyddon, Blaenhonddan, Neath, Glamorgan.
Elizabeth Williams   widow    47.             born Neath Glamorgan c 1854
Shadrack    son 16 blacksmith striker   born Rhondda Valley c 1885
Thomas son 12 born United States America c 1889
Vida E   dau    9 born United States America c 1892
Phillip    son   6 born Bryncoch  Glamorgan 1895
William I   son    3 born  Skewen Neath Glamorgan. c 1898