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Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« on: Saturday 09 August 08 16:24 BST (UK) »
Is anyone else researching this family name? I'm interested in finding out more of the origins of the name, the family of John and Frances (m Pembroke 1839) and any of their children Martha (b 1840) Mary Ann (b 1842) William George (b 1844) Frances (b 1845) James (b1848) and John Richard (b 1851)
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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 August 08 11:09 BST (UK) »
There does not appear to be any other marriages in Pembroke or surrounding counties for Barberry or varient pre 1837

1851 - HO107 Piece 2476 Folio 533 Page 38 all in Pembroke, has John Barbery b c1816 Plymouth Devon

Possibles for baptism Batch Number: C099131  www.familysearch.org  with a number of siblings, parents William & Mary, at Morice Square Baptist, Devonport, Devon, England

JOHN BARBERRY - Birth: 07 NOV 1816
WILLIAM BARBERRY - Birth: 18 DEC 1818
THOMAS HOOD BARBERRY - Birth: 06 MAR 1821 
JAMES BARBERRY - Birth: 04 MAR 1828
ARCHIBALD NATHANAEL BARBERRY - Birth: 27 JAN 1826
SAMUEL CHAMBERS BARBERRY - Birth: 10 AUG 1823 

Also Deaths Sep 1840   BARBERRY  Samuel Chambers   Pembroke  26 423

Some very good links,  including directories and Hugh Wallis, the Stoke Damerel OPC, provides a search facility on his index of Baptisms, 1801-1814 and Burials 1813-1819 and 1823-1825.

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/StokeDamerel/

1861 RG9 Piece 2651 Folio 163 Page 29
Liverpool

Transcribed as Borbenbey, has Frances as widow, all b Pembroke

Possible Death Sep 1857   Barberry  John     Liverpool  8b 241


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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 August 08 11:53 BST (UK) »
Looks a very good possiblity that the family moved to Pembroke, origins possibly in Devonshire

Parents, William & Mary

ARCHIBALD NATHANIEL BARBERRY - Birth: 27 JAN 1826 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock
JAMES BARBERRY - Birth: 07 MAR 1828 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke
WILLIAM BARBERRY - Birth: 21 FEB 1832 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke
RICHARD BARBERRY - Birth: 31 JUL 1834 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke
MARY ANN BARBERRY - Birth: 14 FEB 1837 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke

IGI extracted Batch C096011

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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 August 08 12:30 BST (UK) »
Looks a very good possiblity that the family moved to Pembroke, origins possibly in Devonshire

Parents, William & Mary

ARCHIBALD NATHANIEL BARBERRY - Birth: 27 JAN 1826 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock
JAMES BARBERRY - Birth: 07 MAR 1828 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke
WILLIAM BARBERRY - Birth: 21 FEB 1832 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke
RICHARD BARBERRY - Birth: 31 JUL 1834 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke
MARY ANN BARBERRY - Birth: 14 FEB 1837 Bethany Particular Baptist, Pembroke Dock, Pembroke

IGI extracted Batch C096011

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I see Devonport was mentioned, many men (and families) moved from Devonport to Pembroke Dock ( http://www.pembrokedock.org/h_dockyard_2.htm  ) to find work.
Buckney
Siddoway Durham/ Northumberland
Odell Stevington
Joy Kempston
Gilby Wellingborough
Brown Winlaton
Urwin Durham/ Northumberland
Poole Bedfordshire
Tompkins Stagsden Bed's
Vaughan Monkton Pembrokeshire
Buckney Angle Village Pembrokeshire
Grimes Langwm Pembrokeshire

Dudley Bedfordshire pre 1580


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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 August 08 12:48 BST (UK) »
Just to add there are a few on GR who are researching Barberry in Devon, John 1817.  Also his family in b Pembroke.  Nothing on Ances**y world tree

There is also possible siblings of John in the Pembroke area 1841 working as servants, James Barberry c 1827 and Thomas Barbary c 1826 both b Pembroke.

1841 - HO107 Piece 1451 Book 3 has John & Frances with the Powell family, George & Frances which is very possibly her parents and siblings.

Batch C081801

FRANCES POWELL
Christening:  07 MAR 1817   Saint Michaels, Pembroke, Pembroke, Wales
Father:  GEORGE POWELL Mother:  FRANCES

Parish Marriage:

George Powell (lab) of St Mary, married Frances Barnet (widow) of St Michael, 29 Jan 1814, Pembroke

Hope this helped

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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 August 08 13:16 BST (UK) »
Another interesting fact.... is Martha Douglas who is with the family in 1841 looks like to have married in Devon, and is possibly very likely daughter of  Frances snr, her first son William, is b out of county.  They are next door to same family in 1851, with grandson William Douglas.

MARTHA BARNETT  - Spouse:  WILLIAM DOUGLAS 
Marriage:  12 FEB 1836   Stoke Damerel, Devon

Batch No - M052421

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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 August 08 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Cas
You've been busy ... you unearthed more in 24 hours than I have managed in a year and a half!
I'm so grateful for the information and the names of John's siblings. I had managed to track down his marriage on bmd site but the record is incomplete (Frances does not have a surname) so I have written off for a copy of the original.
I was also confused (not difficult sadly) about Martha Douglas. I assumed she was a relative of Frances but couldn't find any more trace of her.
I will try Devonshire site and see what I can find out. Your help is much appreciated. Thanks again.
Joe
Abraham, Barberry, Bower, Carter, Malley, Redmond, Rider, Roberts, Bigg, Wenman, Sandys

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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 August 08 23:12 BST (UK) »
This I suspect is the marriage...obviously, having transcribed for freebmd, there is a discrepancy in the reg...will check original for hopefully correct number it is either going to be '8' or '2' as the correct digit.  BRB

Marriages Sep 1839   
 
BARBERRY  John    Pembroke  26 241

Marriages Sep 1839   
 
Powell  Frances    Pembroke  26 841

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Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
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Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
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Re: Barberry Family - Pembroke Dock
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 August 08 23:23 BST (UK) »
The numbers are as transcribed on the Freebmd index.  Only thing I can suggest is there was an error on index register, as they are typed.  Possible not on the original entry  ???

Possible contacting the register office in Pembroke to find original marriage entry, The GRO numbers do not apply to the local register where marriage took place.

There are also some other bapt for children on the batch number for George & Frances Powell, along with Frances and in 1841 there is a Mary Powell with child, that is possibly a dau or dau in law?

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland