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Re: The Rossi Family - I'm in a knot!!
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 09:49 BST (UK) »
Apologies for that,

"memo to self"

must polish glasses more often.

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Re: The Rossi Family - I'm in a knot!!
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 09:58 BST (UK) »
Apologies for that,

"memo to self"

must polish glasses more often.

 ;D ;D ;D

Polish them??? What's that???

Oh, is that what that little bit of material is for inside the case?

LOL  ;D ;D ;D

I've got quite used to seeing beyond the scratches and dust on mine!

Carol

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Re: The Rossi Family - I'm in a knot!!
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 10:43 BST (UK) »
Polish glasses - never!! 8)

And definitely no apologies needed - it must have taken you hours to work your way through all the Frederick somethings born in 1811 until you found Rossi alias Rope............!! I certainly wouldn't have found him without you.

Tilly ;D

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Re: The Rossi Family - I'm in a knot!!
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 07 October 08 16:19 BST (UK) »
Polish glasses - never!! 8)

And definitely no apologies needed - it must have taken you hours to work your way through all the Frederick somethings born in 1811 until you found Rossi alias Rope............!! I certainly wouldn't have found him without you.

Tilly ;D


Puffs chest out.  ;D


No actually I found him on theorigins network and he was transcribed as Ross on there, so it was very easy.
If you can't find em on Ancestry, then Origins is the next option.

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Re: The Rossi Family - I'm in a knot!!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 08 October 08 08:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the tip - I think I'll sign up for a month on Origins and see if I can fill in any gaps, especially on my Scots/Irish side which is proving very tricky! ::)......................

tilly ;D



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Re: The Rossi Family - I'm in a knot!! COMPLETED
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 17 June 21 08:05 BST (UK) »
I have also been looking at the Rossi Family and found this string o posts
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In 1861 Frederick Rossi aged 50, sculptor, was listed with a wife Susan Rossi - 50, born Maidstone Kent.  As Patience died in 1873 it is unlikely that he married again.
Patience seems to have been imprisoned in 1849
England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892
Name: Patience Rosi
Date of Trial: 17 Jul 1849
Trial Year: 1849
Location of Trial: Middlesex, England
Sentence: Imprisonment
Crime: Larceny
Sentence: 3 months
Class: HO 26; Piece: 55; Page: 196
... and in the workhouse in 1868 and 1871 

London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1764-1930
Name: Patience Rossi
Discharge Age: 59
Record Type: Discharge
Birth Date: abt 1809
Discharge Date: 22 Sep 1868
Discharge Place: Camden, St Pancras, London, England

...perhaps Frederick was estranged from her. The couple were together in 1851.  In 1871 Frederick (sculptor aged 60 Married) was lodging with the family of Richard Nunce, a stone mason, in Acton

Has anyone any information about Susan?
Ball(s) Barnes Bekker Bennett Buchanan Campher deKlerk deVilliers Dickenson Dunkley Edwards  Greenlees Helps Jones King Knoesen Marais McPherson Neat Nel Oosthuizen Peart Richter Scott Smit Smith Turner van-Rensburg Wallworth Webber Wells Worroll

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Re: The Rossi Family - I'm in a knot!! COMPLETED
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 17 June 21 18:07 BST (UK) »
I've been reading through the posts again - it is a very long time since I started the thread!

 I've also had a look at Fred on my family tree..... and I am in as much of a muddle now as I was then. I haven't done much family tree work lately, just on and off.

I don't really know who Susan is!

Patience was definitely his wife and died in the workhouse in 1873.

In 1851 he is with Patience in the census.

In 1861 he is with Susan in the census, and in 1871 is given as "married" but no wife's name.

As Patience was jailed in 1849, maybe he stuck by her for a while, but gave up after a while and got together with Susan? He just called her "Mrs. Rossi" for appearances ? Which means that it will be difficult to find  her maiden name - which doesn't help!

But I have just seen that I have Susan (Rossi) in the workhouse in St Pancras in 1862.

Is it at all possible Patience and Susan are one and the same person? Or have I gone wrong somewhere!

Tilly x





Lancaster- L. Buzzard  Johnson - Northampts
Lancaster, Perryer-Fulham
Clifford - London, ssx, S Africa, Berks, Wilts  
Divall-Ssx  Randall-Ssx, Surrey 
Rossi-Sienna Notts Leics London   
Brimfield    Seton 
Rix - Norfolk   Burke - Co Clare



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