Parish Register of Horncastle or Wainfleet, Lincolnshire

[searchr]

It seems Ann was born 4 Feb 1822 and baptized 5 Feb 1822, with parents Francis & Elizabeth. Again I can't put in the link because the copyright message comes up, but it's Alford Par/ 1/ 7 No. 220 p. 21/ 57.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=620740&iid=225275
Her sister Mary, b 28 Jul 1824, seems to have been bp 6 Aug 1824 No. 263 p. 23/ 57 & also same birthdate but different bp 16 Aug 1824 No. 265 p. 24/ 57!
Parents pf Ann & Mary fit with the marriage of Thomas Luffman & Ann Dickenson 5 Mar 1844 in Alford from mi lincolnshire as before, with her father Frank. The marriage is on freereg too, St Wilfrid, Alford with his father John.
I can't find a register on Lincs to The Past online that fits with the marriage or with the burial.
From any Alford Par/ 1/ .. online e.g. the one above, you can go to the parent register of that and then to all the ones below that. None of the Alford ones are online.
More about all the families mentioned is on Lincs to the Past, freereg & world connect e,g, linclinks (not currently up) but you probably have this.
I also found a Thomas Luffman vicar of Alford in the 1892 Gazetteer p. 118/ 1251
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=945388&iid=18068
By linclinks on World Connect, Thomas & Ann's children were born Alford, Grainthorpe & North Somercotes.
There may be a connection with my family, but I haven't yet found it!

[Redroger]

Many thanks indeed. The family history is indeed convoluted. Thomas Luffman who married Ann was the son of John Luffman (1797-1869) and Sarah Sizer(1791-1874)  His grandfather, also John came to Alford with the Somerset militia in 1795, and left the unit there in marry. His birth seems to have been in Henstridge Somerset in 1776, but this is unconfirmed. There does seem to be a link between the Thomas in this thread, and the Rev. Thomas Luffman, vicar of Alford, though the actual connection will be in the 18th century if not earlier. Rev. Thomas was born in 1838, probably at Charlton Horethorne the eldest child of John Luffman and Sarah Bartlett. Prior to his stay at Alford he had been curate at St. Peter at Arches, Lincoln, and prior to that had been in the Newark area. After the death of his wife in 1887 he held other posts, and eventually died at the age of 60 at St. Swithin's Vicarage Lewisham London. Thanks for your help.

[searchr]

no worries ...
I love looking things up, especially when there is a hope of a connection.
Please let me know if there's anyone in particular you'd like looked up, but perhaps this should really be in another thread.
For instance, on Lincs to the Past I've kept on looking at these families and have the baptisms of 3 of Thomas and Ann's children and before I read your reply had just found the burial of Thomas's father John in 1869. I also have the marriage of Ann Dickenson's parents Frances and Elizabeth.
The only thing I don't like doing is typing links by hand rather than pasting them!

[Geoff-E]

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,584332.0.html
I hope that link works, because I had to type it out by hand. The "all your own work" notice came up when I tried to paste it.

There's no need to do that, assuming you are using a computer.

Copy the link on LttP
Come to RootsChat
Start your reply then, when you want to paste the link, hold down the Ctrl key on your keyboard and touch V. 

[searchr]

Thanks a million Geoff! That will make a big difference.
Here are the baptisms of Thomas Luffman & Ann Dickenson's children so far:
Mary Ann bp 14 May 1845 Alford Par/ 1/ 9 # 798 p. 58/ 88
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=516494&iid=27038

George bp 15 Oct 1846 Grainthorpe Par/ 1/ 5 # 527 p. 40/ 58
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=598799&iid=309932

Elizabeth bp 16 Jan 1849 Grainthorpe Par/ 1/ 5 # 563 p. 42/ 58
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=598799&iid=309936

Here is the marriage of Frances Dickenson & Elizabeth Armstrong 24 Apr 1821 Tetford Par/ 1/ 8 # 44 p. 11/ 25
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=620687&iid=225183

& here's John Luffman, ?father of Thomas Luffman's burial, 61y, 10 Dec 1869 Alford Par/ 1/ 22 p. 70/ 112
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=513816&iid=26562
Here's his baptism:
John son of John & Ann Luffman age two years 9 Nov 1800 Alford Par/ 1/ 4 p. 28/44
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=514984&iid=26807

Here is the marriage of John Luffman, bachelor of Alford & Sarah SISZSER (LISZSON on freereg) spinster of Louth 23 Mar 1818 Louth St James Par/ 1/ 29 # 258 p. 46/ 155
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=723670&iid=119594

I am looking up the other dates you gave, Redroger. Do you want them posted?
I look forward to exploring the St. Swithin's one. Wasn't that where Dr. in the House was supposedly filmed?

[Geoff-E]

There's no need to do that, assuming you are using a computer.

Copy the link on LttP
Come to RootsChat
Start your reply then, when you want to paste the link, hold down the Ctrl key on your keyboard and touch V.

Or, if you prefer to do it all with a mouse, rather than mess about with the keyboard ...

Go to Edit at top left of screen and Paste is an option on the dropdown menu.

[Redroger]

Yes please Searchr, I had no idea about Doctor in the House being filmed there.

[searchr]

Thanks again Geoff. That's even  easier. My technical hitch now is that that message comes up when I try clicking on red underlines to add words to the dictionary!
I've done a little more. Could you please maybe start a new thread about it though Roger? (maybe Thomas LUFFMAN, Ann DICKENSON & ancestors, or something like that? just in Lincolnshire? I just think it might be a bit hard to find here if someone else is actually looking. It could have a link to here. This one could link to it too.

Sarah Sizer
bp: could only find her baptism on freereg, & on world connect linclinks (just the 1791) and
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=:3205573
I think you might know that database well.
Sarah SISER dau/ John & Elizabeth 27 Mar 1791 Holy Trinity Church Bilsby
I don't like putting in freereg links because they change. So do the file numbers.

bu: Sarah LUFFMAN 78y 30 Jun 1874 Lincolnshire Alford Par/ 1/ 22 # 1208 p. 83/ 112 (St Wilfrid from freereg)
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=513816&iid=26575

Enjoy.

[Redroger]

John Luffman b c1798 is the father of Thomas. John and Sarah Sizer had 7 children; i.e. William 1818-1887,John Siesor 1821-1886,Thomas 1824-1901,George 1827-1905, Richard 18828-1903; Ann 1831-1860 and Elizabeth 1832-1905. At least 3 spelling variants of Sizer appear in the records, but apart from the Christian name use I have standardized my trees on Sizer. John was the first child named Luffman to be born to his father, also John and Ann Troy nee Welsh. Her history is also convoluted, she had been married to Edward Troy (Alford Feb 1785) and had a daughter Elizabeth, with him in 1785. He then vanished from the scene, Ann then had 2 sons, Richard and Joseph in 1790 and 1793 respectively. My tree records them as "Filii populi". John Luffman then appeared on the scene with the Militia in 1795, Ann had a daughter Alice Troy in 1797, and then married John on Christmas Day. I feel certain enough to have shown John as her father.They then had John (c1798-1869),Thomas (1804-1877) and William (1805-1841) together as a couple. From what I have been able to piece together from military records, John had a habit of vanishing after the birth of a child, rejoining the military, and then resurfacing a few years later to repeat the process. An interesting lifestyle to say the least. Perhaps not surprising as the origin of the surname Luffman is occupational, medieval "man of love" or more bluntly Lecher!! This John Luffman was the first record of the surname in the county of Lincolnshire or indeed so far as I can establish the north.

At this time I think it best to let the threads run as they are already, but if there is a poor response then we could institute the thread suggested.