Barker and Elmes

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I think you have done brilliantly lizdb!   Velcro - you could have found some of this yourself on FreeBMD and www.familysearch.org and the 1881 census.  Much more satisfying in a way to do it yourself.  Have a look for possible marriages for the girls and then see if you can find them with spouse in 1881 (if they lived that long!)  - born in the right place and you are away!   It will keep you happy for hours once you get on the trail.  At least I find it so!
Andrea

Thank you Andrea for yoor kind words- as you can see I too find it pretty compulsive once on the trail!

Velcro - Andrea is right - have you looked on free BMD yourself for this marriage and death?
Of course, I have got "into" this family so cant resist a look myself. No immediately obvious death for Jane in Sussex, but she was fairly young when widowed so could have moved elsewhere or even remarried

Re: the marriage, I can see a William Davies Barker marrying in Steyning reg distr in Jan/Feb/Mar 1856 ref 2b 295. One of the brides on the page is a Jane Newland. Timing and place are right, so I just wondered if somehow Sayers ended up as Davies in the index. Otherwise there are some plain William Barkers around. If you are really keen to know about the marriage, it will be necesary to get a childs birth cert to find Jane's maiden name.
But why not have a fiddle on FreeBMD yourself?

Any progress with the girls?

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Re Elizabeth

1851
HO107 1606 202 3

Wickham Court Farm
West Wickham kent

William Churcher 41 Farmer 690 acres bn West Wickham Kent
Elizabeth wife 31 bn West Tarrien (!)
Mary 3 dtr bn West Wickham

loads of servants



Marriage
Ap/MAy/Jun 1846
Elizabeth Barker
William Churcher
Worthing district ref 7 815

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Poor Elizabeth

1861
RG9 463 16 25

Wickham Court Farm, Wst Wickham

Elizabeth Churcher 42 widow occupier of farm of 750 acres bn West Tarring Sussex
John son 2
MAry dtr 13
Grace dtr 7
Blanche dtr 8mths

squillions of staff - governess, nurse, farm workers by the dozen......

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She gives up the farm and moves nearer her family:

1871
Broadwater Rd Broadwater Sussex

Elizabeth Churcher 51 widow bn West Tarring
Mary 23 dtr bnWest Wickham Kent
Grace 17     "
John 12        "
Blanche 10     "
Susanna Crisp servant

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back to Kent by 1881

RG11 913 57 20
BAth House Tonbridge Kent

Elizabeth Churcher 61 widow dividends of interest on money bn West Tarring (indexed West Ferring)
Blanche 20 dtr bn West Wickham

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Back to Sussex again in 1891, and memory going a bit, as places of birth have changed!

rG12 836 6 8
Broadwater Rd Broadwater

Elizabeth Churcher widow 71 living on own means bn Broadwater
Blanche dtr single 30 living on own means bnBroadwater
plus
Cook and housemaid

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and still going in 1901!

RG13 958 20 32
Broadwater Lodge Broadwater Rd Broadwater, Worthing

Elizabeth Churcher 81 widow living on own means bn Wst Tarring
MAry Churcher dtr single 53 bn West Wickham
Blanche "      40   
plus cook and housemaid                 

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Death

Jan/Feb/MAr 1903
Elizabeth Churcher age 83
East Preston dist ref 2b 225

So that has mapped out Elizabeth's life for you.

The other girls are not proving so easy, as there are some possibles on 1851 (born West tarring) but probably married pre 1837 so hard to check with just online resourses. CAnt find them on IGI
If you are able, then a visit to the West Sussex Record Office would help sort them.

[velcro]

Hi
 What do you make of Sarah Barker  annuitant ? Didnt know they received pensions back then? Any evidence she married?

RG9 614 193 15
Sarah Barker 55 unm annuitant bn West Tarring
lodger in h/h of Thomas and Sarah Greenfield


RG9 363 117 3
Broadwater House Brighton Rise Lambeth
Thomas Barker 45 Corn and seed factor bn West Tarring
Emma A 37 wife bn Bury St Edmunds Suffolk
John H 10 son bn London
Gertrude 3 dtr bn Brighton
Alfred 10 mths son bn Brighton

Any sites available about the history of this corn and seed factory in Broadwater?

Cheers
Velcro