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Re: The th Royals ???
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 September 08 19:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Poli

It probably is 6th Royals. The 6th Regiment of Foot (ie infantry) were the 1st Royal Warwickshire Regiment. Maybe they were called the Royals.

The cavalry regiments were the 6th Dragoons Guards (Carabineers) and the 6th (Inniskilling) Regt of Dragoons. Maybe it is a local militia unit.

Was the male witness a soldier?

Ken

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Re: The th Royals ???
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 September 08 19:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the replies km1971 & mmm45.

Will try to find out about the marriage witness and get back to you--have to run now, have got a darts match to play--back on Roots later  ;D
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: The th Royals ???
« Reply #11 on: Friday 26 September 08 19:34 BST (UK) »
back again---have looked on national archives and Googled the 6th Royals and have got nowhere. the 2 regiments mentioned by ken are the only ones i can find referring to the word '6th'. Frederick Weeds was one of the witnesses at Charles' wedding , i've found him in the 1841 census but can see no reference to the army.
I had hoped that the fact that Charles and Maria married in Norfolk might have some bearing on which regiment Charles was in but am stuck.

I appreciate the suggestions re this post and i will plough on and see if i can find out anything else.   Poli.

P.s---Re   The 6th Regiment of Foot (ie infantry) were the 1st Royal Warwickshire Regiment. Maybe they were called the Royals.

Checked up on Charles birthplace--he was born in Warwickshire. so the above is a possibility?
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: The th Royals ???
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 September 08 00:45 BST (UK) »
Checked up on Charles birthplace--he was born in Warwickshire. so the above is a possibility?

If it was 20 years later it would be more certain. Problem in the 1840s is that there were no permanant depots so the county name is be a bit of a red herring. The nearest Army List I have is the 1850, and they had a battalion in the Cape and a reserve battalion (persumably with the Depot) in Fermoy, Ireland.

Ken


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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 September 08 20:27 BST (UK) »
Hi Ken,

I've been going through the censuses in both ancestry & F.M.Past

They married after the 1841  census so not as a couple there.
1851--can't find either of them
1871--Maria with a son Joseph E Bromwich [Charles's father was a Joseph] born 1852 Mauritius British Subject.

Would it help if i could find out if there was a war on in Mauritius in c 1850-2 perhaps Charles was fighting there, plus wife??? clue to regiment ?
Help--talk about straw grasping!!   ::) Poli.





Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: The th Royals ???
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 28 September 08 07:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Poli

Mauritius was a base in this period. A battalion could be based there and provide detachments to other Indian Ocean islands. You really need a later Army List, but in the 1850 Hart’s Army List I have found:

= 1st Bn 12th Foot – returned from Mauritius March 1848
= 35th Foot - returned from Mauritius April 1848

So there were at least two battalions there at the same time. It does not say which regiments were there at the start of 1850. I believe it came under the command of the Cape, so the 7th Foot could have served there for a time while it is listed as being at the Cape.

Ken

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« Reply #15 on: Sunday 28 September 08 11:13 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Ken,

i shall do some more'Googling' and see what i can find re detachments based in Mauritius around c1850.

I made the mistake of looking for wars in Mauritius itself yesterday and came across several comments re 'the Cape' but didn't follow that up. will try and do so now. poli.
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: The th Royals ???
« Reply #16 on: Monday 13 October 08 23:11 BST (UK) »
I've found the regiment at last---but in a most unexpected fashion--

i was looking at probate/wills on a Norfolk website and found my 3rd Gt Grandfather's will. He was Maria's father and she was named in his will as "wife of Charles Brumwich [sp] a soldier in the 12th Regiment of Foot".

To say i was delighted is putting it mildly.   poli  ;D
Behling---- London
Bridges---- London
Copperwheat----Bedfordshire---Norfolk
Denton----Bedfordshire
Edwards----Wales
Evans----N.Wales
Farrow----Norfolk
Hughes----N.Wales
Jones----Wales---Bedfordshire
Lambert----London
Larmouth/uth----London
Ostler----Norfolk
Sherwood----Bedfordshire
Silver----Bedfordshire---Suffolk
Smart----Leicestershire---Middx
Teagle----Buckinghamshire---Wales
Totterdell----Hampshire---London---Stoke-On-Trent
Woods----London

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Re: The th Royals ???
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 14 October 08 07:37 BST (UK) »
He must have transferred from the 6th Regt at some stage. The answer lies in the Muster and Pay Lists in Kew.

Ken