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BENNETT from Aspley Guise for benben
« on: Wednesday 10 September 08 04:13 BST (UK) »
benben,
Whilst researching my Bennett line from Aspley Guise
(Caroline,dau.of John/Elisabeth plus her 14 siblings)
i kept notes on any Bennett information i came across.
Ref.your Thomas Bennett bp.,24 Sept1809 at L/B., son
of William/Ann.
On 14th Jan.1838 at St.Paul's Bedford ,Thomas Bennett
of full age/Batchelor/ a Brewer/living Conduit St.,/son of
William Bennett a Brewer married Sarah Parish/Spinster
living High St.,/dau.of William Parish a Farmer.
Thomas signed/Sarah made her mark.

Regards,australind.

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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 06:40 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rooschat australind  ;D

This is link to benben's topic:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=319122.new#new

Cheers
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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 August 09 03:56 BST (UK) »
Hi there Australind

I have just joined Rootschat and would like to find out more about the Bennetts of Aspley Guise.  I am descended from John Bennett b 31 Oct 1807 to John and Elizabeth Bennett of Aspley Guise.  I believe that John is the brother of your ancestor Elizabeth.

John and his wife Sarah Gibbard were married in Luton 13 Jan 1831 and had at least 5 children that I have been able to trace (via IGI).  They died of typhoid around 1844 when my gggrandfather Frederick Jabez (FJB) was born.  FJB emigrated to NZ in 1863 (aged 19) with a brother Thomas and a sister Ann.  I can find no record of Thomas' birth and no record of what happened to him or Ann after they came to NZ.  For a time, we thought Thomas was from the previous generation of Bennetts but recently uncovered a letter from FJB to his cousin Benjamin Bennett the brewer that describes Thomas as his brother (not uncle).

I am really trying to tie together all the Bennetts as there are so many Williams, Johns and Thomas's!  I have only found 10 children of John and Elizabeth, not the 14 you mention.

Separately, I am trying to track Sarah Gibbard's lineage.  All I know is that her father was William Gibbard of Lewsey Farm.  There were also Bennetts at Lewsey Farm (a William) so am wondering whether there might be a wider connection between Bennetts and Gibbards.

Thank you - any pointers appreciated.  Juben
Bennett (Beds, Bucks), Gibbard (Beds, Bucks)

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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 30 August 09 04:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Juben,
Welcome to Rootschat :)
It seem the 2 main researchers of this Family ( from both threads) have not been on-line on Rootschat since 2008. (  if you click on the user name on left side of page it will tell when they last posted)
Hopefully one or both of them will get an email informing them of your postings.

Cheers,
Trish
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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 August 09 05:01 BST (UK) »
Thank you Trish!  And I meant to say that the John I refer to in my first para is the brother of Australind's ancestor Caroline.  Elizabeth is another daughter of John and Elizabeth. Juben
Bennett (Beds, Bucks), Gibbard (Beds, Bucks)

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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 August 09 09:51 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I have just started looking at this for you. Is it possible that Thomas had another name eg James Thomas Bennett?
I am only suggesting this as Frederick is reg as
Jabez Frederick Bennett but obviously was known as Frederick.

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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 30 August 09 11:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you Trish.  I guess that is possible but the shipping records list him as Thomas A Bennett.  The only children of John and Sarah that I have managed to identify via the IGI (and this was some years ago now) were: Ann (b 30 June 1832), Hannah Foll (19 Jan 1834), John (12 July 1835), Edward (5 July 1837) and FJB (3 April 1844).  I have never managed to find death records for John and Sarah.  I believe that Thomas died in Nov 1902 and Edward in Dec 1902 but I don't know where.  I'm further confused by FJB referring to his grandfather as Thomas Bennett, farmer and brewer of Aspley Guise but I think he means his great-grandfather.  I'm not sure if I need to subscribe to something to get further info? I do appreciate your interest.
Bennett (Beds, Bucks), Gibbard (Beds, Bucks)

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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 30 August 09 14:44 BST (UK) »
Do you have Census records for this family.

I have found Frederick in 1861, apprentice Shoemaker.

Thomas, age 8 and Frederick aged 6, both born Luton, are in the workhouse in 1851 Census.

1841 Census
North Place
Luton, Bedfordshire
HO107/4/19/Luton

John BENNETT, 33, Baker, Born in County, yes
Sarah, 30, NOT born in County
Ann, 9, yes
John, 5, yes
Edward, 3, yes
Benjamin, 1, yes
Benjamin BENNETT, 14, Apprentice Baker, yes
Benjamin ADAMS, 25, Shoemaker, no



Extra child Benjamin and other Benjamin must be the cousin? As 1841 relationships not shown difficult to know.

EDWARD BENNETT

In 1841 Edward is at home with parents

1851 a servant in the Flemons household, Leighton Buzzard

1861 He is married to Elizabeth, with son Frederick age 1. He is a Miller living in Marsworth, Buckinghamshire. Also in household is James PEARSON, grand-father, Miller age 75.

1871 Elizabeth is now Mary.E, same pob though, extra Child Sarah, born 1863

1881 Still in Bucks, corn miller, children still at home. No more children born.

1891 They have moved to Herefordshire and both children have left home

1901 Still in Tring, Herts

Marriage;
Edward BENNETT
Mary Elizabeth PEARSON
March 1859
Berkhampstead 3a 359

Death;
Edward BENNETT
December 1902
Berkhampstead 3a 434
Age 65

Mary Elizabeth BENNETT
September 1908
Berkhampstead 3a 361
Age 71


So at least you now know he died in Hertfordshire!

Will try and find some of the others :)
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Re: Bennett from Aspley Guise for benben
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 30 August 09 15:14 BST (UK) »
THOMAS.A.BENNETT

1851 Thomas is in Luton Workhouse with Frederick as stated earlier.

1861 Thomas. A Bennett is a grocers assistant, born Luton Beds. He is living in the household of George Bailey Grocer/Ironmonger in Dawley, Shropshire

Its nice to think that they all got together again to emigrate to New Zealand.
Found them on the "Queen of the Mersey" arriving  27 November 1863

I havent found Ann yet in 1861 census. I hope I am not going over everything you already had.


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